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  •  Clear demonstration of the travesty... (2+ / 0-)
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    lalo456987, axel000

    that the Congress has become. One of the most important pieces of legislation since I immigrated to this country in 1980 - and we have to go through these rule pretzels to make it work!

    Truly this country is going backwards!

    The only reason people want to be masters of the future is to change the past - Milan Kundera

    by Suvro on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 11:00:56 AM PDT

    •  No, this kind sausage making has been done (0+ / 0-)

      before, many times since you have been here. You just weren't subjected to media freak out by reporters who do not understand the process before.

      The corporate media does not understand the process and has been writing about it never the less, using the "freaking out" framing. Out-of-office-turned-lobbyist after years of GOP rule, and the insular Washington DC media there that dine together and attend school functions together is not above parroting meme from one side. What do you think they hear, the whining of George Will or the knowledge of Ezra Klein?

      Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices -- François-Marie Arouet

      by CA Berkeley WV on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 02:16:22 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for the link (1+ / 0-)
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        CA Berkeley WV

        The 6 "deem and pass" legislations highlighted in that link are relatively smaller picture items compared to comprehensive health care reform. I hope you will agree to that.

        While passing laws is never a pretty picture, I think this degree of stench for such a major issue is unprecedented. If one looks at the big items in the past century like civil rights, Medicare, etc. - has one party so shut down the process that the other party had to resort to such fine degrees of contortion? I can't seem to recall any since coming to this country. It is also possible what you say - that these happened, behind the veil of the false journalism that seems pervasive today. In either case, it is a downward trajectory!

        The only reason people want to be masters of the future is to change the past - Milan Kundera

        by Suvro on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 03:02:58 PM PDT

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        •  The Civil Rights filibuster in 1960s (0+ / 0-)

          by Southerners may have been what motivated the Senate to change the filibuster threshold from 2/3 down to 3/5 in 1975. It has had its own consequences.

          And yes, the GOP shut out the Dems, literally, and received few 'bipartisan' votes during 2001 to 2006 on major tax cuts shifing wealth and other bills. You were here. Did you really get form the Kerry-Bush campaign that the issue fought was privatizing Social Security. Not many know that reconciliation bill attempt

          I would agree about the journalism. Way too corporate. It is failing the citizens.

          Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices -- François-Marie Arouet

          by CA Berkeley WV on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 04:20:04 PM PDT

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