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  •  to just DEMAND his plan be passed wasnt realistic (1+ / 0-)
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    Well how about just simply asking that the plan be passed?

    "I actually called and asked to have a meeting with him and went over to the White House and met with him and visited with him," Lincoln told MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "I think he hates asking people to do things that's contrary to what their gut tells them to do."

    One of a handful of conservative Democratic holdouts on health care reform, Lincoln ended up supporting the Senate's final package. But not before she was able to get the public option sacrificed. The Obama White House has repeatedly stressed that it did everything it could to get a government-run insurance plan in the final legislative language. But it's getting harder to believe that argument. Lincoln is now the second senator to admit that they never got a personal entreaty from the president on the matter.

    "I'd have to think about this, but I didn't really have direct input from the White House on this," Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) told the Huffington Post's Ryan Grim back in late December.

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    Bipartinship means "Yes we can! As long as the Republicans agree to let us."

    by William Domingo on Wed Mar 17, 2010 at 10:17:29 AM PDT

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    •  Maybe he knows when not to expend useless energy (0+ / 0-)

      Sometimes the smart ninja knows when to keep quiet -- and then knows when it makes sense to move in (like by inviting Dennis Kucinich aboard Air Force One at just the right time).

      I'm not saying he's perfect. Even the best chess players make missteps. I'm just fighting against these facile notions around here that he's either an idiot or doesn't give a shit.

      •  not to expend useless energy (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't consider working to get things passed to be "expending useless energy". Every other American president has done it. Is this really being "a smart ninja" or just a lazy ninja?

        Bipartinship means "Yes we can! As long as the Republicans agree to let us."

        by William Domingo on Wed Mar 17, 2010 at 11:25:11 AM PDT

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        •  I've had more reasons to trust his long view (0+ / 0-)

          than to not trust it.

          While not perfect, he's consistently shown himself a master of the big picture.

          We're about to see passage of the most progressive legislation in a generation -- which we'll then immediately see the beginning of the fixing process.

          If this is the result of Obama's laziness, then okay. Toss him a basketball.

          •  if result of Obama's laziness, then okay (0+ / 0-)

            It took a year to do what should have taken a couple of months, and watered down something that shouldn't have needed to be watered down, to barely pass something that almost never got passed, and you think the big picture was always mastered? I think it's been one inexpireneced wrong move after another. And as I posted before, nothing is going be fixed latter. I'm tried of being handed that "fix it later" okey-doke over and over.

            Bipartinship means "Yes we can! As long as the Republicans agree to let us."

            by William Domingo on Wed Mar 17, 2010 at 11:51:19 AM PDT

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            •  Oh, so YOU could have done it in two months? (0+ / 0-)

              I see. Well you should run for office. And then become president. Easy pops. Problem solved.

              And, BTW, I keep saying no strategist is perfect. No big picture is mastered. Adjustments will always have to be made. But to harp on every perceived error (before we even know the results) and call Obama lazy, uncaring, stupid, whatever... That's not only damaging to the overall effort, it's shortsighted and foolhardy.

              •  Oh, so YOU could have done it in two months? (2+ / 0-)
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                They said THEY could do it in two months, and another two months, and another two months, and so on for over a year. A year wasted on that bi-partisan crap. BTW, how's that bipartisanship working out for ya now?

                Bipartinship means "Yes we can! As long as the Republicans agree to let us."

                by William Domingo on Wed Mar 17, 2010 at 12:38:19 PM PDT

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