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  •  In the case Amy called "extraordinary rendition" (0+ / 0-)

    the defendant had been indicted in federal district court in New York.  He was transported to New York and arraigned.  He plea bargained in federal district court.

    You don't see court supervision in that case?

    •  Which case was that? (0+ / 0-)

      "She had a show about how Obama was continuing extraordinary rendition' The use of a bad example doers not mean extraordinary rendition's not continuing.

      "Do your taxpayers a favor, and leave him alone." (My State Assembly Rep, Marc Pocan, to Denver's City Atty before 2008 DNC)

      by ben masel on Thu Mar 18, 2010 at 11:31:45 AM PDT

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      •  She basically called Obama a liar (0+ / 0-)

        Because one of the first things the administration did was announce an end to extraordinary rendition.  They changed the Bush regulations to insert language like "subject to the Fourth Amendment" in various counter-terrorism rendition provisions.

        Scott Horton (Harper's) called the "same as Bush" reporting when done by the right, "Rendition Buffoonery."

        It misses the difference between the renditions program, which has been around since the Bush 41 Administration at least (and arguably in some form even in the Reagan Administration) and the extraordinary renditions program which was introduced by Bush 43 and clearly shut down under an executive order issued by President Obama in his first week..
        There are legal and policy issues with the renditions program, but they are not in the same league as those surrounding extraordinary rendition. Moreover, Obama committed to shut down the extraordinary renditions program, and continuously made clear that this did not apply to the renditions program.

        By that measure, Amy is a buffoon as well, but from the other side of the political spectrum.  She's the Fox News of the left.

      •  This discussion shows the damage Amy has done (0+ / 0-)

        btw, because the counter-factual "same as Bush" meme that Goodman has flogged since inauguration day has now hardened into unalterable urban myths of the left.

        I assume you are well informed and well read.  Yet the fact we are having a discussion in which I have to "prove" that extraordinary renditions (as was warrantless wiretapping) were shut down practically on day one is largely because of Amy Goodman's broadcast lies.

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