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  •  Michael Moore Is A Mass Murderer You Think? (0+ / 0-)

    Michael Moore The Health Care Reform Bill Is A Death Sentence!

    Michael Moore says pass it. At least that's what I read a few days ago.

    And where did you read this fascinating intelligence?  Drudge?

    Wouldn't seem to be anything Michael Moore wrote on dKos.  Admittedly it is possible that Michael Moore talks out of both sides of his mouth but I haven't noticed him doing so.

    yeah Hamsher is still yelling to kill the bill and silent on Arizona opting out of SCHIP.  I am beginning to think she doesn't care about health care.

    Lot more fun beating up on girls than boys huh?

    Why should women have anything to say about abortion and such?  They are too personally involved, unlike us real men, huh?

    Hey exactly how does increasing the grip of health [heh heh] insurance vultures help sick people?  Why should we pay those vultures anything?

    Why do we want to pay double what other advanced countries do without the vultures and leave millions without any health care?  Do only middle class people count in your estimation?  What is your rational?

    In plain fact, liberals have caved in to the lobbyists and wingers.  Some make a cogent case for reneging on pledges and surrendering principle for promises that I think are delusionary.

    Whatever we are getting it is not remotely reform.  At best it is a patch on a blowout.

    Best,  Terry

    •  So you characterize me as anti-choice, huh? (2+ / 0-)
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      Nice strawman.   You conventantly left out how I said that the abortion issue is smoke and mirrors for Hamsher's opposition.   I have been hoping that someone would challenge Stupak and someone has, and I'll be researching between now and 2012 for someone to primary Ben Nelson and his anti-choice, anti-labor views

      My rational is that we need a path to single payer and saying single payer or nothing will give us nothing.  Which is why I will help the push for Grayson's Medicare Buy-in for everyone bill.

      Right now, the only way to move the football down the field and get universal health care is to pass the bill, as mediocre as it is now and then keep pushing for our fixes.  This bill passing is NOT the end of my fight.

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      by pistolSO on Fri Mar 19, 2010 at 02:22:14 AM PDT

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      •  I Don't Do Namecalling, That Is Your Line of Work (0+ / 0-)

        It is pointless.

        Every version of the fake reform strengthens the attack on choice.

        You conventantly left out how I said that the abortion issue is smoke and mirrors for Hamsher's opposition.

        And you have evidence for this allegation?  Or don't you need to defend your claims like other people do?

        I think Jane Hamsher has made some boneheaded moves. [I wonder if she was the one who banished me forevermore from firedoglake? Not saying that was any blunder. :-)]

        But the ritual attacks on Jane Hamsher by purported liberals have taken on the credibility and character of birther attacks on Obama.

        Right now, the only way to move the football down the field and get universal health care is to pass the bill, as mediocre as it is now

        Without even the slightest attempt at moving towards universal health care with some version of single payer, there is no movement "down the field."  Read what Michael Moore, who you libeled, says about that if you like or less controversial analysts, who see us moving in the opposite direction.

        I am fully willing to acknowledge the enormous effort and goodwill and perhaps better judgment of many here who worked for reform, were defeated and now support the imaginary reform.

        Others are more than a little careless about attacking those of us who have yearned for and worked for actual reform for over half a century.  

        Our fight is almost surely lost.

        And then will you blame liberals for an even worse health care system than before?

        I would bet on that.

        Best,  Terry

      •  Forget about Ben Nelson and look elsewhere (0+ / 0-)

        A liberal can't win in Nebraska, and Nelson is likely to be succeeded by a conservative Republican. And as extremely annoying as Nelson is, whichever Republicans he defeated would have been way worse.

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