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  •  and where do you see the backfire here... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...and Kucinich's part in it?

    "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

    by catnip on Fri Mar 19, 2010 at 01:44:13 PM PDT

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    •  as i've explained before (0+ / 0-)

      the longer some in the progressive stay as "no" votes, the likelier Pelosi is to cave to Stupak.

      We'll get the votes from somewhere.  And unfortunately, we'll lose more votes from the right in making progressive concessions, than we gain from the left.

      In other words, the votes calculus says that caving to Stupak gets us more votes than caving to Kucinich.

      •  even if Dennis wasn't in the picture (1+ / 0-)
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        ...they still would have caved to Stupak and his imaginary friends because that's what they do in the face of conservatism - they cave. You really can't put all of this on Kucinich - as if he was the only non-Stupak supporting Dem who opposed the bill. And you still don't know the (vote count) outcome of caving to Stupak.

        "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

        by catnip on Fri Mar 19, 2010 at 02:29:06 PM PDT

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