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  •  Breeder reactors are tough to get right. (2+ / 0-)
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    And they are dangerous.  I mean, at least the Chinese are doing something, but I hope we don't get involved with breeder reactors.

    The falsifications and fictions that are ruling us have become life-threatening.

    by geomoo on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 12:49:57 AM PDT

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    •  The Vanishing Face of Gaia (5+ / 0-)

      Pick up James Lovelock's book; or read James Hansen's "Storms of My Grandchildren".  Both make a compelling argument understandable by the layman that every stitch of life on this planet will have zero chance of surviving if our societies fail to employ nuclear energy on a massive scale to meet our energy demand, and employ it quickly.  The problem is so large, so utterly immense in scale, that all the purer forms of green energy can collectively do no more at full build-out than what a mosquito can do to harry an elephant.  I think idealism can be deadly... to us all.

      "Life is forever menaced by chaos and must restore balance with every intake of breath"-- Jean Gebser

      by rangemaster on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 02:59:52 AM PDT

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      •  Neither are energy experts so I take what (1+ / 0-)
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        they say with some reservation. Still a very expensive way to boil water. We're going to build more nukes, let's do it right this time around, as in not near population centers. Osama's first target was the Indian Point nuclear facility on the Hudson.

        "Ignorance breeds monsters to fill up the vacancies of the soul that are unoccupied by the verities of knowledge." H Mann

        by the fan man on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 04:03:50 AM PDT

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        •  It matters not what the U.S. does with nukes.. (1+ / 0-)
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          other parts of the world can deploy them and it will still benefit us. That may well be happening, or it may not. Either way, it's out of our hands.

          Moderation in most things. Except Reactors. IFR forever!

          by billmosby on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:48:17 AM PDT

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      •  Also get Bill McKibben's new book, EAARTH. (4+ / 0-)

        He maintains that we no longer live on the old familiar planet Earth; that it's too late to stop the climate-change freight train headed our way--and we'd better start adjusting/adapting to the fact that we NOW live on a very different, and far less stable, planet than humans have enjoyed for many thousands of years. He emphasizes that it's still important to do things to reduce our impact on the planet, but more from the perspective of species survival than notions that earth changes can be forestalled if we act quickly enough. Because it's too late for that. And it is. Even the climate change deniers will be forced to open their eyes.

    •  Soduim Fast Reactors (SFR) have proven to be safe (3+ / 0-)
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      The first glimmer of the fast-reactor concept began at the federal government's Argonne National Laboratory in 1951, when the sodium-cooled Experimental Breeder Reactor No. 1 powered four lightbulbs and proved that nuclear power was a real thing. In 1965, Argonne put into service Experimental Breeder Reactor No. 2, a demonstration project that ran successfully for thirty years.

      As to other safety aspects, lots of theory and tests were done with EBR-II that confirmed the superiority of pool-type sodium cooled fast reactor safety characteristics in a number of areas. They even had a sodium-water-concrete reaction (fire) early in the program and showed how quickly it could be recovered from at least in the 60s. They also dropped a fuel assembly on top of the reactor core and found it easy to find and recover it again even in opaque liquid sodium. Plus they recovered from a sodium pump failure in a few weeks that skeptics said would shut down the program. In short, EBR-II's long successful operational history showed that a properly designed fast reactor is not an accident waiting to happen.

      The nuclear problem is the solution to Global Warming

      Republican marriage is between one man and one woman....plus another woman on the side.

      by Alan Arizona on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:16:52 AM PDT

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    •  We already did. The ... (1+ / 0-)
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      Integral Fast Reactor I mentioned is a U.S. development. I worked at the site that developed it.

      Moderation in most things. Except Reactors. IFR forever!

      by billmosby on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:46:42 AM PDT

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