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  •  Absolutely (3.50)
    This morning my husband asked me, rhetorically, where my mom would be right now without SS. The answer was, I suppose, in our spare bedroom. Or in one of my siblings homes.

    Your points above are so clear cut and sensible...I really don't have a feel whether or not people are buying W's arguments, but I get really angry when the news media treats the SS privatization situation like it's a viable idea, with little or no examination of the problems with it and the fact that the current system is working quite well and merely needs some adjustment, if it even needs that, based on what Paul Krugman's had to say about it.

    I've always been blonde!

    by bdizz on Wed Jan 12, 2005 at 02:04:34 PM PST

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    •  young people (4.00)
      Polls keep showing that younger folks are more supportive of privatization than older ones.  It's my view that they have lived a long time through the lies that Soc Security is going to run out of money.

        But besides countering this misinformation, how about an ad campaign or letters to the editor (see my post below on a low tech campaign), saying, listen up you twenty-somethings, DO YOU LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOUR PARENTS IN THEIR OLD AGE?  IF SO, THEN YOU'RE FOR THE BUSH PLAN ON SOCIAL SECURITY.

      •  scary (none)
        they are being conditioned to serve the state.
        it reads like sci=fi, the totally cooperative populace.
        raised on computer games and fast food.
        no culture, no discourse.
        look after yourself and forget about the greater humanity.
        no only sad but predictable.

        the only trouble is the other countries like India and China. they did not collapse like The Soviet Union. they did their homework.
        and the Monkey in Venezuela aint going Democratic.

        I may be a boomer with no 'boom' but i can see the the sycthe acomin and it aint 'divine rapture'.

    •  Say it loud (4.00)
      Our social safety net is not something to be ashamed of, but to be celebrated.  Look around the world and find the countries that provide this service for their citizens.  Look at the living conditions there, and compare them to the countries that adopt a "hands off" attitude to social needs.

      I know where I'd rather live.

      There's a terrific correlation between countries that provide strong social safety nets, enjoyment of life, and life expectancy.  The elderly benefit from Social Security, so do the middle aged, so do the young, so does every small, medium, or large business in the nation.  


      TwoTaboos -- Politics and Religion.

      by Mark Sumner on Wed Jan 12, 2005 at 02:28:05 PM PST

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    •  yes and (none)
      she'd also not be buying gifts for the kids, traveling, eating out, etc.

      She wouldn't be putting money into the economy.

      Do these morons not realize that if the elderly don't have any reliable income, they DO NOT SPEND ANYTHING?

      That's how we have to frame it -- SS isn't a drain, it's a recirculating fountain. Everything that gets paid gets put right back into the economy.

      As opposed to investments, that don't spur any real economic activity.

    •  That's a meme (none)
      Bush's "Spare Bedroom Plan".  

      That could run a ways for the younger generation, and even more so with the boomers.  The boomers are already beginning to feel the bite from bearing portions of increased medical costs for thier parents, providing for long-term care, etc.  

      We should be making it quite clear what the world would look like in 30 years if this is adopted.  "Spare Bedroom Plan" sums that up pretty well, me-thinks.

      "Politics isn't about big money or power games; it's about the improvement of people's lives" - Paul Wellstone

      by nullspace on Thu Jan 13, 2005 at 09:42:10 AM PST

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