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  •  Just cuz I have to say this ... (3+ / 0-)
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    SilverOz must be a paid shill. He totes the Wall Street-powers that be line all the friggin time. I see that name and I gag. I've watched for more than 2 years. I don't believe for a minute that his/her comments are worth a hill of beans.

    •  Thanks for the heads-up. (1+ / 0-)
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      It can take a while to get that, because such shills typically sound authoritative and offer "facts."  One defining characteristic I've notices, on display here, is the tendency to show up at the top of the comments section with attempts to add uncertainty and ambiguity to the debate.  Much appreciated, JuliaAnn.  I don't think you are violating any rules in offering your opinion so modestly.

      Legal chicanery and pitch darkness were the banker's stoutest allies. -1939

      by geomoo on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 04:44:31 PM PDT

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      •  Julia Ann and geomoo: I think we all know by now (6+ / 0-)

        the repeated 'Wall Street Trolls' who come on here consistently, and I will not 'name them' but everyone knows who they are...

        They always try to do a few things:

        Distract the present argument/debate by putting out this single meme:

        You are a Ron Paul person, a nut case, and a conspiracy theorist.....none of which is ever proven by backed up facts...

        I worked my ass off for Obama, and despite what some people believe, will continue to support him, until I know better........I keep waiting and holding his feet to the fire.......but I have to admit, he is losing ground with me......

        These same group of people that come onto Kos, always protect Wall Street and the Federal Reserve, not by offering true debate and arguments of substance, but by always saying that 'Geithner and Bernanke' saved our country from a great calamity, which nothing could be more from the truth.

        What they saved, was Wall Street/the Banks, which have turned right around and have been allowed to screw our economy into oblivion.  

        Just look at our nation.  The 'results' are very clear as to 'who won, and who lost'.  There cannot be any clearer argument than reality.  

        America was literally 'driven off the cliff' by those that President Obama is now 'seeking to protect'.....

        I wish, more than anyone that this was not so, but actions speak louder than words.  

        Most of the people on Kos, because of a few dedicated progressives and 'truth tellers' refuse to allow the 'trolls' to Ron Paul us to death, and call us all 'conspiracy theorists' know what has happened to our nation.  

        Thanks to the great and amazing work of so many decent and honest people on the financial blogs, we have learned the 'truth' no matter how ugly it is.

        This gives me a great deal of strength and hope to continue this fight, because, facts matter...and regardless of how certain 'hired hands' try to deflect the truth, now that this is all out in the open by people like William K. Black, Simon Johnson, Dean Baker and Joe Stiglitz, there is no 'going back' or pretending that this is about Ron Paul.  

        This is not about Ron Paul, who I do not support.  This is about a devastating catastrophe of an epic cover up to allow the 'status quo' to prevail.

        We must, now more than ever support people like Elizabeth Warren, Neil Barofsky and even those that were discredited:  Eliot Spitzer....because what we have before us is a modern day 'Pentagon Papers with Watergate to boot' that is being played as a conspiracy theory............and thank god, that people on DailyKos know better.

        ...oh, not to worry, I'm wearing a Flame Retardant Valentino Orange Moo Moo whenever I visit DailyKos.

        by Badabing on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 05:50:56 PM PDT

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    •  I Don't Agree With Silver Oz A Lot (3+ / 0-)

      I do this time. Congress is just as much to blame for this as anybody. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank did nothing but fellate Alan Greenspan every time he showed up on the hill. I know because I watched most of these appearances over the years.

      Even when it was clear the whole house of cards was blowin' up in our faces in 2007, there were no serious questions asked or answered beyond those by Bernie Sanders (who was remarkably prescient about what the outcome was going to be).

      Congress sat on its hands and let all of this happen, and the reason why is simple, Ratigan said it, money.

      <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

      by superscalar on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 05:24:14 PM PDT

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      •  that is true...they are all complicit...but that (5+ / 0-)

        does not give credence to where we are today and what we must do about it.

        Just because 'all the other kids did it' does not mean driving the car off the cliff, should not be addressed with strong push back.

        I have often said, that our two party is really a one party system....that President Obama, as Candidate Obama are two entirely different people, and I believe that is what most Democrats are so deeply cynical about now.

        Regardless.....we must not allow ourselves to play into the new 'Blue Dog' give America away to the Corporations, and Wall Street, that in the end, will leave us in the 'dust' in tent cities........because we gave up and refused to fight.

        Remember this: our grandparents and parents, never gave up.  Many of them, including my grandfather lost his life as an Irishman in a police riot, for a fare wage and a right to the American dream.

        We have passed a few generations now, that have forgotten how we managed to sacrifice our lives, and ancestors for the right to dignity, and guess what?

        They are taking that away again, and pretending to be Democrats, the party of the 'working class'...nothing could be further from the truth.

        ...oh, not to worry, I'm wearing a Flame Retardant Valentino Orange Moo Moo whenever I visit DailyKos.

        by Badabing on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 05:59:41 PM PDT

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