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  •  It's easier that way. (3+ / 0-)

    I guess people are too lazy to find out what Muslims really believe.

    No problem with preconceptions being shattered and all that.

    The problem with all the sons of Abraham is that each group has the TRUTH, and no one else.  Then those groups splinter, Sunni/Shia...Catholic/Protestant...Orthodox/Reform/Conservative, and THEY have the TRUTH.

    No one knows THE TRUTH.  They all have beliefs, faith, and superstitions, but no TRUTHS.

    Watch this space. -5.13/-3.38

    by Grannus on Mon Mar 29, 2010 at 01:19:30 AM PDT

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    •  I see what you mean... (3+ / 0-)
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      But that's where belief comes into play.  I can't provide hardcore facts, but I believe what my faith teaches me.  It's interesting, because yesterday I was just sitting in my bedroom and thinking about some things.  I started to think about religion and God and I got this sensational feeling running through my body.  And while I can't necessarily describe exactly what it felt like, I just knew it was securing my belief in God and Islam.  It was an amazing feeling.  I'm not sure about others that belong to a certain faith, but that's what secures my beliefs.  I just feel it.  Again, it's hard to explain unless you feel it yourself.  However, I know many will do anything to get others to believe their truth.  But the way I see it is, you cannot force a belief or for someone to believe what you perceive to be the truth.  And for those that do not believe what I think is the truth, then so be it.  People can believe in whatever they want.  It's up to them.  I won't ever criticize or condemn anybody for what they want to believe.

      •  I won't speak against anyone's faith. (3+ / 0-)

        The "convert or die" crowd, no matter which religious group it may be, is lacking in faith.  The existence of someone who thinks differently than them causes them doubt, so they seek to destroy that which causes the doubt rather than ask themselves why it does so.  

        That's why I capitalized "truth".  It's not a truth unless everyone recognizes it as such.  A belief system that is handed down orally for hundreds of years, and then revised to conform to current thinking (I'm looking at you Christianity), is so rigid that it can ignore actual history (yes that's you Islam.  Remember the Prophet's wife and how he treated her.), or has grown so paranoid, either with or without cause, that it becomes what it most hates (accept it Judaism), is one that needs to look at itself honestly.

        I think I've insulted everyone equally.  I'll work on Hinduism next week.

        Watch this space. -5.13/-3.38

        by Grannus on Mon Mar 29, 2010 at 01:50:02 AM PDT

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        •  Well I don't know... (2+ / 0-)
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          I mean, you have the truth that President Obama is an American citizen, yet birthers refuse to believe it.  So would that make it the truth since not everybody believes it?

          I think I've insulted everyone equally.  I'll work on Hinduism next week.

          LOL...While some (Muslims, Christians, and/or Jews) would have read what you said and gotten insulted, it doesn't insult me in the least.  I guess that ties right back into what you said in the beginning..."The existence of someone who thinks differently than them causes them doubt, so they seek to destroy that which causes the doubt rather than ask themselves why it does so."  I guess I have such a firm grasp on my faith and believe it wholeheartedly that what you said doesn't hurt me.  And those that want to take some sort of "action" against somebody that says what you said must not be so confident in what they believe.  I definitely agree with that!

      •  I get that feeling too about certain things... (0+ / 0-)

        ...but I don't believe in any religion.

        Fox News and WWE: Because delusional people need news and sports also. -5.12/-5.28

        by gimmeshelter on Mon Mar 29, 2010 at 05:21:56 AM PDT

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