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  •  That's a benefit they've always had (0+ / 0-)

    and Temple has always used it as a way to recruit and retain RNs and other employees.  People have passed up other job offers and stayed at Temple in order to take advantage of that promise.

    So you can't be particularly surprised when they respond badly to Temple saying, "Oh, those 15 years you put in on the basis of the free tuition benefit that we've always promised you?  Yeah, we're getting rid of that.  Yeah, I know you can't have those 15 years back.  Sucks to be you."

    I think that to the workers, it would be like Temple canceling a pension.

    And that's only one of the issues at stake here.  To say that the strike "is about Temple Hospital employees wanting FREE COLLEGE TUITION FOR THEIR CHILDREN!" makes it sound like a) that's all the strike is about, which is completely untrue, and b) they're asking for something that they don't have already, which is also untrue.

    I imagine Temple might eventually offer a grandfather clause on this and health insurance.  That would put the workers in a bad position, and would make it possible for the boss to win what they want in the long run (which is ending this benefit across the board).

    "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

    by Pesto on Fri Apr 02, 2010 at 09:09:30 AM PDT

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    •  You are correct (0+ / 0-)

      This strike is more than just getting free college tuition for their children. It is also to maintain a crazy rich benefits package that all of us here would kill for! So, Temple wants to scale back that package ever so slightly.
      What do you think? Would it be so horrible if a nurse has a slight co-pay of $5 to see a doctor? Or if that nurse has to pay $5 for a brand RX, instead of the $2? Or if that nurse had to pay a little bit of premium? What world do you live in? Us regular folks, who happen to have health insurance, have to pay hundreds and hundreds of premium dollars a month. we have to pay $20 or $40 to see a doctor. Hospital stays run into the hundreds or thousands of dollars. RX costs $40 or 50 or 60 per RX. And you want me to feel bad for the nurse, who, granted, has a very hard job, but makes about $100k a year, with outrageous benefits? Sorry.

      •  Where are you getting your numbers from? (0+ / 0-)

        Would it be so horrible if a nurse has a slight co-pay of $5 to see a doctor? Or if that nurse has to pay $5 for a brand RX, instead of the $2? Or if that nurse had to pay a little bit of premium?

        Are those the numbers on the table?  Or are you just making them up out of thin air because you think it makes a good argument?  Do you even know what the current contract (now expired) said about copremiums or copays?

        "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

        by Pesto on Fri Apr 02, 2010 at 09:38:22 AM PDT

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        •  Hypothetical (0+ / 0-)

          Those numbers were meant as an example. Do you know what the numbers are? I have no idea what the numbers are, but I can only imagine how over-the-top rich they must be!

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