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  •  hmmm (0+ / 0-)

    Notice how he hasn't been hr'ed or attacked.

    We'll have to disagree. IMO, kestrel9000's response was off point and hostile. But, thats just me.

    •  Completely on point. (2+ / 0-)
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      rockhound, theatre goon

      Instead of choosing to engage on substance, the commenter indulged himself and his personal prejudices by engaging in a gratuitous personal attack about a picture.
      Hostile? Sure, based on what I saw, he had that coming.
      Your game is to do your best to obscure the difference betweeen honest dissentand someone who shows up in these threads just to see how big an asswipe they can be.
      There's a huge difference, and it doesn't surprise me at all that your game is to do the best you can to obscure those lines.
      The problem is, your best sucks, you're frankly quite transparent, and it's getting tiresome.

      •  There was no attack (0+ / 0-)

        other than your own. It was inappropriate. And once again, you demonstrate your total willingness to dive in the gutter with your attacks. Again, totally inappropriate. And, if I'm getting tiresome to you, then ignore me, or convince the community that I'm tiresome so that they can be rid of me. Otherwise, I'm afraid you'll just have to deal with it. If you want to take it another further, lets take it off the board and take it up with the management here. Ready when you are.

        •  I'm surprised that you don't think (3+ / 0-)
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          that stevej's comment suggesting that the diarist was "going redneck Rambo" during his military service, was an attack.  

           I'm genuinely curious, how would you categorize or describe his comment?

          •  Have you socialized with Britons? (0+ / 0-)

            or any other Europeans for that matter? "redneck rambo" is exactly how they see it, from their point of view. They are a world apart from us on the gun issue. I didn't see it as stevej calling the diarist a "redneck rambo".

            Ironically, I totally respect and applaud what the leaders of RKBA are doing here on DailyKOS. It broadens the diversity of the Democratic Party and brings in a point of view that would normally be anathema here. I'm all for it. Wouldn't you also agree that part of that process reciprocal respect is to also recognize and respect how others feel about the issue - in this case Europeans?

            •  Have you asked the initial commenter (3+ / 0-)
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              this same question?  

               I'm not quite sure I follow your segue to including European citizens' feelings in this matter though I'm willing to hear you out.

            •  To put it simply, bullshit. (3+ / 0-)
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              rockhound, kestrel9000, KVoimakas

              I'm married to a Briton, and she actually knows better than to make such bigoted statements as "redneck rambo" when referring to gun owners or those who support the 2nd Amendment.

              So no, Britons in general have no such bigoted viewpoint, whether you may think they do or not.

              If that's not what you were trying to say, then disregard, but that's certainly what it looked like.

              •  Well (0+ / 0-)

                If I was allowed to be married, I could make the same claim, as my partner is from Scotland and I have spent ALOT of time in both Edinburgh or London. Britons have no appreciation or sympathy for the American love affair with guns, at least the MANY that I know.

                And, in that vein, I don't appreciate your debasing remark, "Bullshit". But, that seems typical from a few of you who post under the RKBA banner and spit on the promise that is made in every diary.

                If that's not what you were trying to say, then disregard

                If not? But Bullshit?  Own it. Next time you dialogue with me, treat me with the same respect I treat you. Otherwise, this will be the only response you'll ever get from me.

                •  My entire point... (2+ / 0-)
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                  rockhound, kestrel9000

                  ...is that, if you think that you speak for all Britons -- then bullshit.  You do not.  Many of those that I know do not agree with you.

                  If that was your intent, than I absolutely own the statement and stand by it -- bullshit.

                  I was, however, giving you the benefit of the doubt, that I might have misunderstood what you were trying to say.  Apparently, I did not, and you do intend to speak for all Britons.  On that, I call bullshit.  Much like Americans, ask a dozen Britons their opinion on anything, and you'll likely get thirteen answers.

                  There's your response.  If you choose not to dialogue with me, that's your choice completely.  

                  •  Frankly (0+ / 0-)

                    I judge people by what they say and how they behave. And, your recs of the personal attacks in this diary speak volumes. I think we're done.

                    •  Sounds good to me. (2+ / 0-)
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                      rockhound, kestrel9000

                      I'm not arrogant enough to speak for an entire country, nor would I have any idea what you're talking about regarding personal attacks.  

                      I have only rec'ed those comments I agree with, none of which contained personal attacks, although many of them contained facts which you apparently don't like.

                      Thanks for your input though.

                      •  You're just a mass of contradiction (0+ / 0-)

                        I'm not arrogant enough to speak for an entire country

                        juxtaposed with:

                        So no, Britons in general have no such bigoted viewpoint, whether you may think they do or not.

                        and this:

                        Much like Americans, ask a dozen Britons their opinion on anything, and you'll likely get thirteen answers.

                        I have only rec'ed those comments I agree with, none of which contained personal attacks

                        You rec'd this, as just one example:

                        The problem is, your best sucks, you're frankly quite transparent, and it's getting tiresome.

                        Bottom line, you're not interested in serious dialogue or the commitment thats made in every one of these diaries.

                        •  No, I'm extremely interested in serious dialogue. (2+ / 0-)
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                          rockhound, kestrel9000

                          It's just that I haven't seen any from you just yet.

                          What you choose to call contradictions are, quite clearly, stating that I don't think Britons all have the same opinion about anything.  I do find that a bit odd -- you can quote them, but clearly either didn't read them, or didn't comprehend them.  Either way, though, it's of no serious concern to me.  When you have an actual substantive issue to raise, I'll probably have a response to it.  'Til then, I'm not interested.

                          You have a nice evening, though.

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