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  •  LIke the Irish in America and Ireland (0+ / 0-)

    If Ireland was so great, why did all the Irish (including my family) leave?

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 09:52:55 PM PDT

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    •  Um, you don't know much about Irish history, (1+ / 0-)
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      do you?  The great wave of immigration was in the 1840s when people left ebcause of the famine.  I suggest you read about that. Also, the Irish were pretty much third class citizens int heir own country under English rule, forbidden to speak their own language (Gaelic) or practice their faith (if they wanted to inherit) or get an education .  That started int he 13th century with the Kilkenny Statutes and continued until the Catholic Emancipation Act int he early 19th century.

      As a amtter of fact, Scarlett;s father came her from Ireland because he couldn't own land there--or had little chance of it.  Land was mostly owned by absentee English landlrods who allowed Irish Catholic farmers to rent a pitifully small amount of land for outrageously high rent.  Then came the potato blight and the crop which fed most Irishmen faield--and peoplw starved to death while food rotted ont he docks in SUblin (the ENglish beelived that if the Irish would just cook it right, the potato crop was fine;t hey were wrong).  Not that landowners cared if their tenants starved. It made it easier to kickthem off theland so they could continue the process of enclosure which allowed themt omake mroe money raising cattle or sheep.

      One of my family members fought int he union Army. Teh otehrs came here around 1900 seekign a better life--the family farm was too small to support both sons.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 10:05:42 PM PDT

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      •  actually I do know all that, that's what I meant (1+ / 0-)
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        You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

        by Cartoon Peril on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 10:13:36 PM PDT

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        •  It just doesn't compare,t hough, hence (1+ / 0-)
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          my descent into lecture....I ran intosomeone here on March 17, who couldn't understand why the Irish still loathe Cromwell because, after all, it's been 400 years...and I knwo a lot of [people here really don't klnowmuch Irish hsitory.

          The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

          by irishwitch on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 10:42:19 PM PDT

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          •  you're forgiven, here's a bit of Irish history (0+ / 0-)

            I just recently found out.  

            Remember W.B. Yeats the poet, who kept trying to get Maude Gonne to marry him, but she wouldn't?  Well, the horny old bastard then proposed to her daughter!  

            You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

            by Cartoon Peril on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 11:04:00 PM PDT

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            •  Maude Gonne was also a battered wife--hence the (0+ / 0-)

              unflattering reference to him in "Easter 1918." Herhusband's death was probably the only good thing he did.   I think Yeats wanted to marry her daughter because he wanted that conenction so desperately. He was  romantic and an occultist. Did a long paper on his Cuchulain plays written (unintentionally) in Kiltartanese.

              The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

              by irishwitch on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 11:31:03 PM PDT

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          •  Hell I still hate the Romans for what they (0+ / 0-)

            did to my Celtic ancestors.

            To the teabaggers "May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Sam Adams

            by shigeru on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:13:39 AM PDT

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