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  •  Here is McDonnell's proclamation on Confederate (3+ / 0-)

    History Month.

    http://www.governor.virginia.gov/...

    There is a lot of reason to disdain/condemn McDonnell for this.

    But, I didn't see anything in here about Lincoln or his killers.

    Please support your claims or retract/rewrite.  I'm no McDonnell supporter (by far) but we need to avoid the whole Rosanne Rosanna Danna thing if we can on KOS.

    •  History has consequences... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...if you don't mention slavery when talking about the Civil War you're winking to the revisionists out there who pretend that the war was about...you know...tariffs or something.

      Background on John Wiles Booth:

      Booth became politically active in the 1850s, joining the Know-Nothing Party, an organization devoted to reducing the stream of immigrants into the United States.  Booth ardently supported the institution of slavery and in 1859 joined a Virginia company that aided in the capture of John Brown after his raid at Harper's Ferry.  Booth was an eyewitness to Brown's execution.

      During the Civil War, Booth worked as a Confederate secret agent.  He met frequently with the heads of the Secret Service, Jacob Thompson and Clement Clay, in Montreal.

      This is John Wilkes Booth on Lincoln:

      On April 14, 1865, after the fall of Richmond rendered moot his kidnap scheme, Booth set in motion his final plan--one of assassination.  Booth may have made the decision to kill the President after hearing Lincoln deliver a speech urging Negro suffrage, according to Booth's former friend, Louis Weichmann.  Weichmann spoke of his viewing of the the President's speech with Booth:

      "I had never seen Mr. Lincoln up close and I knew he was a tall man, however nothing could have prepared me for the sight of him. A long shadow did he have. And his arms, when at his sides, touched near his knees. Very professionally he said that there would never be any suffrage based on differences in the way people look. Upon this, Booth turned to the two of us and said, "That means nigger citizenship. Now by God I’ll put him through!"

      link: http://www.law.umkc.edu/...

      I don't mind the diarist taking a swipe at this poorly worded proclamation by the Gov, and his poorly worded defense of it - by not addressing the issue of slavery he opened up a huge can of worms.

      "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

      by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:26:26 AM PDT

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      •  Great Link (2+ / 0-)
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        I hadnt seen this link before. I dont generally like
        to read about Booth because he seemed such a contradiction.

        His brother neither his father seem to share is
        ideology. I think it strange that he was against
        new immigrants since his father was one from
        England.

        It always amazes me how people can condemn others
        when they have the same roots.

      •  Well, support from Grannyhelen (1+ / 0-)
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        is worth a lot, sincerely.

        I do think some citations would have been nice and that there is plenty in the McDonnell proclamation to target without the title suggesting that there's a proclamation thanking John Wilkes Booth a state hero.

        But then, I've been a little touchy lately about chapter and verse, and the lack of it (and in a few cases, reading comprehension issues) in a few things I've seen lately on the Rec list, so maybe this diarist is getting some excess attitude from me based on that.  

        •  Understood - had I been writing a diary on this I (1+ / 0-)
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          probably would have phrased things differently, but what I appreciate in here is the passion the diarist is showing. The Civil War is not "old news" and it continues to shape our politics today...

          ...sometimes you need a little impolitic ranting to get that point across :-)

          "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

          by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:41:14 AM PDT

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    •  The Confederacy (2+ / 0-)
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      should be studied - I'm currently reading a 1500 page trilogy about the Civil War - and Virginia did play an enormous and important part in that war, but the Governor's phrasing is biased and ugly, at least to the ears of this boy from California.

      On the other hand, maybe this isn't the proclamation the poster refers to...

      T.

      History does not always repeat itself. Sometimes it just yells "Can't you remember anything I told you?" and lets fly with a club. ~ John W. Campbell

      by troutwaxer on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:28:24 AM PDT

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      •  The part in the proclamation about (1+ / 0-)
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        the civil war being relevant to today, hint-hint-hint, is a pretty obvious dog whistle for those who like to fantasize about secession.  As if secession would be helpful even to their misguided causes. [bolding mine below]

        ....
        "WHEREAS,   this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live, and this study and remembrance takes on particular importance as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War, a four-year period in which the exploration of our history can benefit all; ...."

        •  If we're going there, you could also point out (2+ / 0-)
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          Lincoln's stance on giving freed slaves the right to vote and the fact that we have the 1st African American President.

          One cannot decouple race from this history - I think McDonnell was being too cute by half and (hopefully) inadvertantly stuck his foot in historical doodoo.

          "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

          by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 07, 2010 at 08:54:43 AM PDT

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