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  •  When I see look at this picture (14+ / 0-)

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    As a photographer myself, I know that grin - I see a proud photographer. One of Iraq's best.

    Here's to Namir and all the victims of this terrible, wasteful, unnecessary  war - for every story like this there are thousands more.

    I hold one person responsible for all of this:

    George W. Bush. May he burn in hell.

    "I'm looking forward," he told the troops, "to returning to Afghanistan many times in the years to come." Obama March 2010

    by Wamsutta on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 07:21:46 PM PDT

    •  Have some been intentionally targeted? (7+ / 0-)

      The numbers are high.  The motivation to avoid the "public relations" problems of Vietnam strong.

      Here's a report from the Committee to Protect Journalists:

      CPJ considers a journalist to be killed on duty if the person died as a result of a hostile action--such as reprisal for his or her work, or crossfire while carrying out a dangerous assignment.

      By Circumstance:
      Murder: 89
      • Crossfire or other acts of war: 50

      Responsibility:
      • Insurgent/other armed group action: 105 (Includes crossfire, suicide bombings, and murders.)
      • U.S. fire: 16 (CPJ has not found evidence to conclude that U.S. troops targeted journalists in these cases. While the cases are classified as crossfire, CPJ continues to investigate.)
      • Iraqi armed forces, during U.S. invasion: 3 (All are crossfire or acts of war.)
      • Iraqi armed forces, post-U.S. invasion: 1 (Crossfire)
      • Source unconfirmed: 14
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      Highest death tolls among news organization:
      • Iraq Media Network (includes Al-Iraqiya, its affiliates, and Sabah newspaper): 14
      • Baghdad TV: 7
      • Al-Arabiya: 6
      • Al-Shaabiya: 5
      • Reuters: 5
      • Kurdistan TV: 4
      • Al-Baghdadia 2

      War is brutal, dehumanizing, and unpredictable. It is not a viable instrument of policy.

      by geomoo on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 07:34:54 PM PDT

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    •  I wonder how Obama's most hardcore loyalists... (5+ / 0-)

      ... can explain this:

      After two years of traveling around the country and criticizing President Bush, President-elect Barack Obama said Friday that he "always thought [Bush] was a good guy."

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      "I mean, I think personally he is a good man who loves his family and loves his country," Obama said in an exclusive interview with CNN's John King.

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      Is this the same George W. Bush the rest of us are talking about? The bloodthirsty, mass-murdering, lying, arrogant, self-centered war criminal? Two possibilities here: Either Obama is lying through his teeth and just playing politics, or else he really believes what he's saying. If the latter, then that says something NOT SO GOOD about Barack Obama.

      "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

      by ratmach on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 07:55:49 PM PDT

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      •  yes, and yes it does. (1+ / 0-)
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        War cannot be waged to instill any virtue, including democracy or the liberation of women. - Chris Hedges

        by dancewater on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 08:10:12 PM PDT

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      •  Joseph Goebbels and Hermann Goering (0+ / 0-)

        were said to be wonderfully polite, engaging men at social events.  They had families and were loving Dads, too.  One's personal likeability has absolutely zero to do with whether or not you make good, humane policy.  The ubiquitous confusion about this is what got GWB elected, and what now makes Sarah Palin such an attractive candidate for a certain ignorant segment of America.  But cut Obama some slack.  He isn't saying that he approved of everything Bush did.

        The past is never dead. It's not even past. - William Faulkner

        by Jimbo47 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 06:39:23 AM PDT

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        •  Ummm... you make a good point (0+ / 0-)

          But in a way, you make my point too. Cut Obama some slack?... well, since Goebells and Goering were, as you said, nice friendly family guys in private, can you imagine Obama saying THEY were "good guys"?

          "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

          by ratmach on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:29:51 AM PDT

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          •  Saying that today? Of course not. (1+ / 0-)
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            But--to carry this to its logical extreme--if Obama were German, and it was 1946?  It's an absurd amount of supposition, but in that cultural context and time, yeah, he might very well say something like that.  

            I'm certainly not defending Bush or condoning anything he did, but Obama obviously has got to worry about sounding Presidential, being diplomatic, etc.  I do think he is being politically adroit here.  But by all accounts GWB is a famously affable dude.  I know, it's hard to wrap one's mind around it, but that's the whole thing about political power, the power to send armies overseas, to make people live or die with your orders--I think people who wield that kind of power are in the main completely disconnected from what they are actually doing.  So, there you have it--affable nice dude and one of the worst, most destructive and irresponsible Presidents in the history of our country, all at the same time.

            Kinda makes you sick, doesn't it?

            The past is never dead. It's not even past. - William Faulkner

            by Jimbo47 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:35:39 PM PDT

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            •  So you think maybe my first option... (0+ / 0-)

              ... for why Obama would say that, I mean, that he's "just playing politics", is what's going on? If I'm understanding you correctly, then I think (HOPE) you're right. I'd MUCH rather believe that Obama is doing that, than to think he honestly believes Bush is "a good guy" (regardless of how he acts in private, to his family and friends, etc).

              "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

              by ratmach on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:14:12 PM PDT

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              •  Yes. (1+ / 0-)
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                Obama's default mode is diplomatic and low key.  He is also a pretty shrewd leader, and he knows it would be pointless to call out Bush, even if he didn't personally like him.  One must always read between the lines in a politician's public statements.

                More importantly, though, I do wish Obama would allow some investigations to go forward on the misbehavior of the previous administration.  His "let's look forward, not backward" routine is depressing to those of us who want to shed some light on the intentional lawbreaking of Bush and Cheney.  Unfortunately, the whole thing would be so politically volatile that I don't believe anyone will ever be held to account.  

                In this country, Presidents past and present, at least in terms of foreign policy and war, are now accountable to absolutely no one.  No matter how many people die.  Sad.  But true.

                The past is never dead. It's not even past. - William Faulkner

                by Jimbo47 on Sat Apr 10, 2010 at 06:14:10 AM PDT

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