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  •  Not pick a liberal like Stevens, but instead some (4+ / 0-)
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    who is to the right ofe stevens. Most of the choices mentioned are not hard core liberals enough to be a counterweight to roberts , scalia etc. They will want to accomodate.

    •  Who are you suggesting? (0+ / 0-)

      You put yourself out there....specifics on who please.

      •  Kagan. Or, worse, Sunstein. n/t (0+ / 0-)

        “If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.” — Emma Goldman

        by Jyrinx on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:08:46 PM PDT

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        •  I want someone hard core left who can be (1+ / 0-)
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          stealth in the nomination process but also we know will be a counterweight to the far right activism of the roberts court. This way if at least one of the conservative bloc is gone in the next few years- we have a chance to fundamentally reshape the s.ct.

          •  I just want to point out... (0+ / 0-)

            ...that person won't have sufficient "street cred" for liberals to be happy about.

            Let's face it: too heavy a paper trail and the GOP has a field day. Too light a paper trail and the GOP has a field day on a different field, and our fellow liberals will complain "we don't know enough about (fill in the blank) to be sure you aren't pimping a stealth moderate!!"

            "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." -- Frederick Douglass

            by Egalitare on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:43:03 PM PDT

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      •  I am suggesting an idea, rather than a specific (1+ / 0-)
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        person who can be shot down. The problem with many of you can be seen in how you frame things in terms of personality. I don't care who it is as long as they serve the function that they need to serve on the court. I leave it to others to focus on personalities.

        •  heh, once again (0+ / 0-)

          bruh litters a diary with comments attacking his personality portrait of "most people here," randomly attacks a commenter with accusations of shallowness, makes a series of predictions based on his assumptions about Obama's personality... then righteously declares himself above considerations of personality. Classic.

          Anyway bruh1, I agree with your perception that Kagan does not appear to have the right personality to adequately replace Stevens' strong advocacy of progressive positions.

          •  My comments are about process (0+ / 0-)

            I attacked him for ask ingme for a name when I am discussing the criteria for who we should be looking at rather than throwing out names as if that's the key point.

            You however as expected can not even understand the point much less engage it.

            Let me know when you are ready to move beyond high school level of "I don't like bruh" so I am going to whine about his discussion of process.

            I find you boring and tiring at the same time. Well that an easily manipulated from crisis to crisis and from action to action that is thrown at you because all it takes is personality for you. boring and tiring.

    •  IOW cave on the perception of what (0+ / 0-)

      GOTV thinks the president said. Did he ever say liberal?

    •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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      Stevens was not only a liberal (so to speak), but was that faction's leader and it's primary writer.  He wrote many of the opinions of the Court in those cases where he was in the majority, and countless dissents.  We need a justice who will not only pick up the mantle of Stevens' voting patterns, but his leadership and ability to cajole and obtain concensus behind an opinion.  It's not just a matter of left and right.

      Obama clearly understands this, but I am unfortunately expecting him to pick a more moderate candidate in order to try to save himself and the Party as much grief during the campaign as possible. I don't see anything that suggests that he's going to go all out and pick a very liberal leader such as Bush did from the other side when he chose Roberts.

      •  And that's why I think the court will shift right (1+ / 0-)
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        It is about the leadership and strategic value of the pick, not just now but a lso if at least one of the conservatives leaves the court say in the next decadeit would fundamentally reshape the court in a way that a moderate choice would not.

    •  Stevens is a moderate (4+ / 0-)

      It's just that compared to people like Scalia and Roberts he looks liberal.

      The FOX is a common carrier of rabies, a virus that leaves its victims foaming at the mouth and causes paranoia and hallucinations.

      by Calouste on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:19:11 PM PDT

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      •  He was a liberal, but not as far to left (0+ / 0-)

        and others before him. The key issue is the issue of people discussing what we should want rather than who. There are too many here ready to say whoever is named a label is that label. I would like to look at a criteria of what people want for the S.Ct. over and above names they want to drop.

      •  Stevens said that himself. -n/t (0+ / 0-)

        It's time for the Democratic leadership to continue to use the House and Senate rules to enact our agenda. HCR is just the start!

        by NM Ward Chair on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:21:18 PM PDT

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