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  •  I think (2+ / 0-)
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    borkitekt, simone daud

    that might be difficult considering that the Jewish settlements in the West Bank strictly forbid Palestinians and do not allow Palestinians to be near Jews. There are Jewish only roads and such, so I doubt the Jewish settlers would allow their children to attend Palestinian schools because they view Palestinians as inferior to them. It is a segregated occupation entirely based on Jewish supremacy.

    •  Actually, that's not true (0+ / 0-)

      Jews and Arabs have lived separately in the West Bank since 1929 (yes, almost 20 years before Israel, and almost 40 years before the 6 Day War) when the Arab residents of Hebron slaughtered their Jewish neighbors, with whom they had lived for centuries.

      •  no (1+ / 0-)
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        simone daud

        This is false. There was no legally enforced separation of roads, schools, and other institutions prior to the Israeli occupation. What is happening today is a military occupation and the building of settlements restricted to one ethnic group. That has never happened in the past, so while I understand that there has been conflict in the past, it was because Zionists insisted on establishing a separate and unequal system of governance in Mandate Palestine.

        •  Look, (0+ / 0-)

          this isn't the forum for this debate. And your repeating falsehoods doesn't make them true.
          Anyone interested in the facts about the Hebron Massacre of 1929 which ended Jewish-Arab coexistence in the West Bank can read about it in Wikipedia. <>

          •  you're right (1+ / 0-)
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            simone daud

            this is not the forum for this discussion, so I'm not sure why you're persisting in engaging me. Suffice to say, you didn't address any points about what the content of the discussion was, which was the fact that the settlements TODAY are Jewish only, and therefore, the reason there aren't joint Palestinian-Israeli schools is because of the racist nature of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank. I'm fairly certain most people here understand that.

            Have a wonderful day.

            •  Well, (0+ / 0-)

              I didn't know that "engaging" you (or anyone) is forbidden.

              I responded to what you wrote because there is a concerted effort to deligitimize Israel by spreading falsehoods about all sorts of things, including your claims of "Jewish supremacy." These efforts, coming from either side, move us away from peace, while the program discussed here tries to move us towards peace.

              •  I think (1+ / 0-)
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                simone daud

                the best way to move toward peace is by ending the occupation and its infrastructure, which privileges Jews over non-Jews in the West Bank in very concrete ways, such as Jewish only settlements, roads, schools, and the use of the West Bank's resources in contravention of international law. So, if we want more examples like this diary, I think the way to go is to end the system of segregation (the wall, the checkpoints, the segregated neighborhoods) that is enforced in the West Bank by the state of Israel and the IDF.

                I'm certain you agree.

                Take care.

              •  oh and (0+ / 0-)

                where is this "concerted effort" to delegitimize Israel? I don't see it at all in the news or the media or in US government policy, so I'm curious what you mean by that.

                •  No remi, I won't fall for it (0+ / 0-)

                  I won't take your arrogant baiting. Because the program discussed here is too rare and too beautiful.

                  •  uhhhhh ok (0+ / 0-)

                    Fall for what? You made the claim about delegitimizing, not me. Usually one has to support such claims.

                    Anyway, in the real world, Israel gets pretty uncritical support from the US government and the US media. If you mean that people who are supportive of ending the occupation and pointing out what is happening in the West Bank and Gaza are "delegitimizing Israel," then I think the problem is the language you are using, because I see that more as supporting human rights than delegitimizing anything. But anyway...

    •  Terrible post, remi (0+ / 0-)

      A little one-sided, wouldn't you say?

      The PA recently fired some journalists (apparently they have the right to control the press, WTF?) who traveled to Israel to hear what Israelis think.  Hamas labeled those journalists as "collaborators," which means a death sentence.

      PA-controlled television rarely has any shows preaching co-existence with Israel and, of course, Hamas childrens programming is legendary for telling kids how they should strive to be martyrs to kill Jews.

      The PA and Hamas have not exactly been models of actively seeking co-existence and being open to the other side's viewpoint.

      I was actually curious to see whether there was any effort whatsoever by the PA to support a similar program.  

      I had my doubts.

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