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  •  Fortunately . . . (4+ / 0-)
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    except for a few, rare exceptions, Catholic schools and universities favor science and don't reject evolution.  Having taught (and still teaching) in both Catholic high schools and colleges, I can assure your their stance is not anti-science.  Galileo was a long time ago.

    Searching through the University of San Diego's website, it appears that there is an officially recognized gay, lesbian, bisexual student group by the name of Pride.  The group has not updated its information, so I'm not 100% sure the group is glbt, but there are other groups that have not updated their information.  And yes, many Catholic universities have glbt groups on the official list of student organizations.

    •  I did a stint (5+ / 0-)

      doing data entry at the Registrar of Voters' office before the 2000 elections, and USD came up as one of the big bright red spots on the map, locally.

      If you wanted to find republicans, you were guaranteed to find them there.

      Besides, that wasn't the point being made.

      My life is an open book, and I want a rewrite!

      by trumpeter on Sat Apr 10, 2010 at 10:01:13 PM PDT

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      •  Was the point . . . (3+ / 0-)
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        . . . that USD, being a local university, might have a representative on the committee that would appoint or nominate the additional members to the school board?  If so, what is your concern about USD?  That there are many Republicans at the school isn't the issue.  The issue should be whether they are reasonable people who want a good education for the young people of San Diego.  I would venture that most Republicans are reasonable in that respect.  The group that scares me in this process is the full of people who want to push a political  and religious agenda in the schools.  Yes, most of these people are Republicans, but that doesn't mean most Republicans are this kind of person.  While I wouldn't want someone from Ave Maria University (really conservative school), I don't think USD would be a problem.

        I still think the big problem would be any member of the school board that's not elected by the people or appointed by an elected official.  There must be more accountability than appointment by a committee appointed by . . . whom?

        •  My point was (0+ / 0-)

          More along the lines of:

          1.  Secret meetings
          1.  In a culture known for secret societies
          1.  Pushing representation into more narrow foci,
          1.  All without those representatives being elected.

          And having seen too many republicans, I cannot agree that they 'are resonable in that respect'.  See Texas.

          You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but when it comes to politics, I tend to not trust people and groups whose record is to be underhanded, sneaky and dishonest.

          My life is an open book, and I want a rewrite!

          by trumpeter on Mon Apr 12, 2010 at 08:12:36 AM PDT

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          •  Thank you, but . . . (0+ / 0-)

            . . . I had no idea San Diego Republicans were having "secret meetings" and was a "culture known for secret societies".  Or are you talking about the Catholic Church?  Or did you mean Republican Catholics in San Diego.  None of that was at all evident in your original comment.

            In Texas, the extremist was recently voted out of office.  The same article points out that another Republican member also lost her seat.  While there are Republicans who are extremists and definitely pushing an agenda, I think that 2 Republicans lost their seats shows that not all Republicans - even in Texas - agree with them.

    •  It doesn't really matter what doctrine they (5+ / 0-)

      teach at the University, or whether or not they recognize the value of Galileo.  There is supposed to be a separation of the church and the state, even in San Diego.  

      •  Members of community (0+ / 0-)

         Remember that I don't like the idea of a committee appointed by someone to then nominate members to a school board.  However, if you're going to do that, it would seem a representative from a local university (maybe one private and one public) would actually be beneficial.  The person from USD would be there not as a representative of the Catholic Church but as a representative of higher education.  San Diego probably has more than one private university, so why not rotate among all the universities (private and public)?  Do you really think it would be fair to the students to say, "Only public universities or only public universities and private non-religious universities will have any say on the school board"?
         If you want input from the community, which is the supposed reason for this strange proposal, you can't cut out anyone in an official capacity within a religious organization.  That would mean the head of large but church-affiliated hospital could not serve on a committee appointed by the mayor to find ways to improve city finances, attract new businesses, improve the city, etc.

    •  The Galileo controversy was not (0+ / 0-)

      about science when all was said and done.  It was about him having pissing contests with other scientists and him blowing out his ego when a little diplomacy was in order.

      Torture is for the weak. After all, it is just extended wheedling.

      by nargel on Sun Apr 11, 2010 at 02:48:32 AM PDT

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