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  •  Good point. (10+ / 0-)

    I didn't go into the physical structure aspects -- frankly, the mentions of it I came across weren't really detailed enough for me to grasp what they were talking about specifically,  but they certainly do play a role.  There are some pretty specific code requirements for the construction and placement of turnstiles, for instance, to prevent them from being an impediment in the event of a crowd crush situation.  Probably quite a bit of literature out there on the architectural issues in terms of general public assembly codes, rather than festival seating specifically.

    We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. - Justice Louis D. Brandeis

    by dsteffen on Sun Apr 11, 2010 at 03:12:48 PM PDT

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    •  near stages? (5+ / 0-)
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      I believe the original research on this was motivated by deaths due to people trying to flee from fire.

      Your diary on people being crushed going in led to my comment.

      It belatedly occurred to me that similar devices might make sense near stages, or in fact anywhere people are likely to jam up against each other.  

      •  I was at a concert once where there were (1+ / 0-)
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        a bunch of people standing on the floor--until some jackass lit a ping pong ball.  Have you ever seen that?  You get a bright, five foot high flame that burns out in a minute or two.  The crowd cleared away to give it about a ten foot circle, then moved back in when it burnt out, like nothing ever happened.

        There was no way security could ever find the guy who did it.

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        by Ice Blue on Mon Apr 12, 2010 at 03:48:38 PM PDT

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    •  This doesn't quite apply here (2+ / 0-)
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      but I took Disneyland's approaches to crowd control and line management for granted all my life until I experienced some other amusement parks and venues and realized what an art it was and how good they were at it.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Mon Apr 12, 2010 at 01:07:38 PM PDT

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