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  •  Could be. (2+ / 0-)
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    Dartagnan, RhodaA

    Still. I feel a bit weird criticizing Frank Luntz. Much as I'm fond of semantics and language and messaging, I feel like I'm telling Einstein that special relativity was great, but general relativity is just too weird so he must be wrong.

    Normally I'm quite comfortable disagreeing with knowledgeable people — sometimes they're wrong, and I'm willing to risk being wrong myself. But in this case, he seems so plainly wrong, and his strategies are so insidious, that I worry about what I could possibly be missing.

    “If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.” — Emma Goldman

    by Jyrinx on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 02:41:35 PM PDT

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    •  Here's how I see it - for now (5+ / 0-)
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      Things could change.

      The Dems got ahold of Luntz' Memo. When Dodd lashed out at McConnell yesterday on the floor, he read parts of Luntz' aloud and asked for it to be placed int he congressional record. Dodd was not holding back his anger one bit, and he still isn't. After HCR passed the Dems got their courage back. Luntz is not smarter than the Dems, the GOP and their liars were just bolder and more brazen.

      Actually, the truth is "smarter" than lies because the truth has the facts to back it up. The Dems just needed to show some guts.

      •  Luntz's memo wasn't a secret, (4+ / 0-)
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        or at least not a well-kept one. He circulates those memos far and wide, both to contribute to Republican strategy and to advertise for his firm (which does the same wordsmithing tricks for private clients).

        So yeah, I certainly agree we're doing a better job this time at fighting back (I can only hope it's better enough). I just wish I could get rid of this sneaking suspicion that there's something clever I'm not seeing …

        “If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.” — Emma Goldman

        by Jyrinx on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 02:52:55 PM PDT

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        •  Now you got me wondering ... (1+ / 0-)
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          Also, I wrote a post about Fiorina a little bit above under this thread. What do you think?

          •  Heh … yeah, I read about that :-) (1+ / 0-)
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            I hope the story has legs, 'cause yeah … OTOH, you can't do business in Russia without bribing people. So we'll see who does a better job demagoguing this scandal :-D

            “If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.” — Emma Goldman

            by Jyrinx on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 03:01:33 PM PDT

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            •  Wow (3+ / 0-)
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              Just saw this on TPM:

              Yesterday I noted that Russia and Germany were investigating alleged bribery by HP executives back in 2003 when now-Senate candidate Carly Fiorina was the company's CEO. The alleged bribery was part of an effort to secure a major contract with the Russian government. Now comes news that the Securities and Exchange Commission is joining the investigation as part of their jurisdiction under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. The Journal says it's "part of a widening probe into the company's activities."

              I can't see how that's a good thing for Fiorina's Senate campaign.

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