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  •  I'll Disagree Harder. He's a Conservative (15+ / 0-)

    The Democratic Party is a conservative party by any rational standards. Of course they're compassionate conservatives, and so is Obama. They both do strive to serve the people with government.

    But just because the Republican party is sociopathic conservative, it doesn't mean the opposition party is not also conservative.

    The health reform we just passed is based on a practice so rightwing it's outlawed in the rest of the developed world and beyond for its immorality and inefficiency. There are any number of other major policies of the Democrats in economics, trade, militarism and regulation that are obviously conservative.

    This has nothing to do with hating anyone or pet ideologies. It has to do with which interests benefit or are harmed most and least by policies.

    The Democratic Party does have strong progressives, and also pragmatic progressives. But that's not the whole tally. There are plenty of conservatives in it who have no intention that any policies should be first steps along a journey to a more progressive economy or society.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 12:02:56 PM PDT

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    •  Conservative, eh? (7+ / 0-)

      And Republicans are convinced he is a socialist.

      There certainly is extreme, unfounded hyperbole on both sides of the aisle.

    •  it's a shame that you don't understand (3+ / 0-)
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      what the Heath Care Reform bill is all about and you insist on your ideological stance re financing  A little pragmatic realism and a greater understanding of the systems around the world would help. Maybe not.

      "You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it." - Rabbi Tarfon

      by samddobermann on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 05:28:34 PM PDT

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    •  And I'll very stongly disagree with you... (2+ / 0-)
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      A conservative, as I understand it, is someone who resists change and wishes to maintain the status quo.

      A progressive is someone who wants to move society forward, to right wrongs, and to solve problems.

      To call Obama conservative makes absolutely no sense.  It's simply an asinine assertion.

      To imply that nothing has improved, that nothing has changed since Obama took office either suggests that you are unaware of recent history that you are an extremely dishonest person.

      That "hopey-changey thing"? Takes a Magic Hawaiian to pull it off...

      by BobTrips on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 06:15:52 PM PDT

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