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  •  Same Approach - Same Outcome (3+ / 0-)
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    There are truths within Libertarian beliefs, but whether a Libertarian professes distrust in government involvement in social or economic realms the solution is the same - less government.

    Liberal representative democracy posits that citizens have the right and responsibility to govern.  Libertarians believe there can be no effective government, thus they talk of golden days of eras gone by when all was splendid, ignoring the historical facts.

    A Democrat and a Libertarian might agree that government has no authority to inject itself between a woman and her doctor, but a Libertarian does not want the doctor to be required to be licensed.  

    The reason Libertarians and Republicans have so often found themselves in political alignment together against Democrats is that both Republicans and Libertarians see no role of government to help people, and would prefer that the people not have the right to govern as they see fit.  

    Each come to this conclusion from different starting points, but the effect is the same.

    Dawn is breaking everywhere Light a candle, curse the glare We will get by. We will survive.

    by MikeBoyScout on Sun Apr 18, 2010 at 07:10:09 AM PDT

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    •  Nuance (1+ / 0-)
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      But there is nuance.  Social libertarians are often right and often disagree with economic libertarians because they are wrong. Government has an important role as a part of society but can be wrong also and can be too powerful.  

      •  My first introduction to libertarianism (0+ / 0-)

        was in a book that expressed the opinion that individuals should have the right to discriminate against anyone in whatever way they wished. The victim or victim class was free to either stop the discrimination on their own or buy a factory and discriminate in retaliation against those who had refused to hire them or pay them fair wages.

        I see this as non-reality based. Being denied medical treatment because of the color of your skin, your gender orientation, or your particular health issues means that you die, not that you become a doctor and refuse to treat assholes.

        I see no way to separate the "social" and "economic" libertarians.

        If wanting the country to succeed is wrong, I don't want to be right.

        by Angela Quattrano on Sun Apr 18, 2010 at 10:58:36 AM PDT

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