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  •  It has warped meaning outside New England (16+ / 0-)

    In NYC, most people didn't note it at all.

    I had a conversation with a Texan and an Ohioan friend of mine recently, and they both agreed that "Oh, it's a militia day because of McVeigh and Waco ... no one else knows about why people in Boston celebrate it."

    No one else knows about why PEOPLE in BOSTON celebrate IT.

    It being the start of the American War for Independence.

    They also claimed that Columbine took place on the 19th, and that McVeigh picked it because of Hitler's birthday, as did the Columbine kids.

    As pleasing as it is that two intelligent people from the middle of the country evince a confused association between anti-semites, militias and players of the game Doom, the lack of actual patriotism in their states that this speaks to is galling.

    Especially since they would both agree that their states of origin are more patriotic than Massachusetts.

    This is why we gave you all Scott Brown.  Paying attention to us now?  Good.

    Now we'll go back to celebrating the actual reason for this day, and not recalling the hangers-on and losers sucking off it.

    •  I guess us sorry bucolic saps out here (2+ / 0-)
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      are more about celebrating ends to wars.

      and I wait for them to interrupt my drinking from this broken cup

      by le sequoit on Mon Apr 19, 2010 at 05:09:10 AM PDT

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      •  Are you saying the Revolutionary War (0+ / 0-)

        should never have been fought?

        •  No, (2+ / 0-)
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          I admit it was a from-the-hip reaction to regional chest-thumping.

          I've lived in Massachusetts, and I never noticed the populace particularly more fascinated with the historical aspects of Patriots' Day than anyone else, save a few hobbyists who like to dress up and shoot off antique weapons.

          And I seriously doubt that many New Englanders are aware that Revere never reached Concord, despite Longfellow's narrative, or that Emerson's "shot heard round the world" wasn't.

          and I wait for them to interrupt my drinking from this broken cup

          by le sequoit on Mon Apr 19, 2010 at 06:55:36 AM PDT

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          •  Sorry, but actually my kids have learned... (2+ / 0-)
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            ...the history of Patriots' Day accurately in our town school system here in MA (~40 NNW of Boston). And it's something that my family has always taken seriously (no we don't dress up in colonial-era garb and fire off muskets). My SO grew up in Sudbury, MA (postal zip code 01776, ostensibly awarded this because their minutemen/militia was the first to join up with the locals at Concord) so it's always been a part of the family, even when we were living in NJ.

            So please try to avoid the sweeping generalizations of an entire commonwealth.

            "Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane." -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

            by frisco on Mon Apr 19, 2010 at 11:09:09 AM PDT

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            •  I appreciate both comments. (1+ / 0-)
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              elwior

              But please, "I never noticed the populace particularly more fascinated" doesn't even come close to being a sweeping generalization.  It's an observation which I share after living in New England for over twenty years.  I still appreciate your additional information, which is more that of an insider.

              The problem after a war is the victor. He thinks he has just proved that war and violence will pay. Who will now teach him a lesson?

              by geomoo on Mon Apr 19, 2010 at 12:05:01 PM PDT

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            •  The Wayside Inn in Sudbury is a great place (0+ / 0-)

              to visit to take in some of the colonial history.

              I've dined their numerous times. The wait staff wear period era clothing. In dining areas are heated with the fireplaces during the winter etc..

              http://en.wikipedia.org/...

              The entire state is steeped in history. I'm looking at a stone wall built in that era right now. Colonial builds, memorials, roadside markers, building like schools name after historical figures, etc..

              Anyone who living in Massachusetts that doesn't have a sense of it's history must have their eyes closed.

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