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  •  32 Million? (3+ / 0-)
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    zett, PsychoSavannah, blue armadillo

    When I saw that I felt 2 parts anger and 1 part humor. Thanks for ruining my day.

    Only in America.  

    My mother (huge fan) bought me "Arguing with Idiots" for Christmas.  I know that she meant it partly as a joke, but I think that she really thinks that it's an honest attempt at history.  

    So, I know all about his fans.  But here is the thing:  Until we have someone that wants to stand up to Beck on the issues, we're not going to win any hearts or minds.  I just read Nancy Skinner's diary on why she goes on the O'Reilly factor.  It's a decent diary, but the comments are bothersome.  

    Some of the commentors were angry at her for even appearing on the O'Reilly factor.  Why lend credibility to Bill O'Reilly.  Well, he has 3 million nightly viewers, which makes him credible to some people.

    My point is that liberals can sit, talk and complain amongst ourselves about Beck.  Or Rush.  But unless conservatives or Beck viewers are exposed to our views, then we're losing. Makes us look like we don't want to debate, only call people names from afar.  

    Does that make sense?

    •  It does make sense (2+ / 0-)
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      cbyoung, peacemaker33

      but the RW media presence is so pervasive, these folks can (and do) immerse themselves in their alternate universe 24/7.  I dealt with teabaggers and Beck fans all summer - at a very basic level, there was some dialogue, but as soon as they got home, they went back to Beck and Fox and new talking points were planted in their brains.

      Until these folks can be weaned off the stupid that is Beck and FOX and Limbaugh etc - I don't see much hope at all in converting them back to reality based reasoning.  They've basically bought into a univers that either plays so much on their emotions that they just go all in -- or for others it is a universe that sadly, reinforces and legitimizes their own basic fears and prejudices.

      Reason does not work - facts are silly things - they relate at a level I find disturbing to their RW Oracles of Fear.

      I'd love to feel optimistic about getting through but these days, I feel rather depressed about it all.

    •  We have (1+ / 0-)
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      very good reasons for cringing when one of us goes on Fox. The underlying assumption in your comment seems to be that the folks @ Fox will deal with any liberal guest in good faith. Of course, they'd never do things like edit their interviews to make liberal guests appear to say something wholly different than what they actually said.

      Shit. They don't even have to edit video anymore. This is the network with Hannity, who showed the clip of Obama's address to a joint session of Congress last year, where he referred to insurance executives getting paid a lot by denying claims. Remember? He said "It's not because they're bad people . . .".

      And what did Hannity follow up with? "Did you hear that? He's saying that insurance executives are BAD PEOPLE!"

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Thu Apr 22, 2010 at 09:02:23 PM PDT

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