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  •  Yes (15+ / 0-)

    but keep something else in mind, please!

    I can't post this enough:

    "I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority," he said.

    Talking about George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. And the speaker? Candidate Barack Obama.

    Yeah, I heard him promise to return to the rule of law, too. And yeah, I heard he was a Constitutional Scholar, too.

    The only difference here is that I wasn't fooled. Alas, he still got my vote, but I damn sure feel snookered when I go back and remind myself that this article appeared in 2007.

    The bottom line is that The Democrats--they of the thoughtful view of The People, because THAT IS in their platform--are also full of shit when it comes to certain subjects.

    Like the deliberate blurring of the line between "leaking" and "whistleblowing". Yeah, deliberate. Look to see that meme repeated, ad nauseam, by our corporate information services. Coming soon to a teevee or newspaper near you...

    The American Television and Newspaper Mainstream Media = Private, For Profit Corporate Information Service Monopoly

    by o the umanity on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 06:10:42 AM PDT

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    •  I've begun to wonder of the Chicago School of (8+ / 0-)

      Constitutional Scholarship isn't on the same order of systemic fallacy as their school of Economics.

      Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

      by Robobagpiper on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 09:03:20 AM PDT

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    •  That quote, especially from a self-professed (5+ / 0-)

      constitutional scholar is deeply disturbing. Clearly, impeachment was not reserved by the founders for "grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority." No--high crimes AND misdemeanors. All impeachment is is removal from office. Prosecution for crimes would be an entirely separate matter. It's not much different than a "no confidence" vote in England. Our founders just wanted to give the President an opportunity to defend himself--trial and make sure it was fair, requiring 2/3 of the Senate to vote for it. That's the only difference.

      Maybe W. gets some kind of pass on this part of the oath "will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" since his ability was questionable. Obama?

      "[K]now that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy." -Barack Obama

      by Battle4Seattle on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:43:49 AM PDT

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      •  No one should get a pass (4+ / 0-)
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        Even people from Chicago, or people like Dumb W ...

        I have always found it fascinating that about the time that article went to press, you couldn't turn on a teevee or radio without falling over Candidate Obama.

        If BushCo isn't prosecuted for what they did, history may, in fact, not look completely kindly on President Obama. And that's a shame, because there is so much he can be proud of. IMO, though, this egregious refusal to perform this most obvious Constitutional duty will taint this presidency someday, given some hindsight (that is, unless some other stuff turns around pretty soon, in a big way, like the job market...)

        The American Television and Newspaper Mainstream Media = Private, For Profit Corporate Information Service Monopoly

        by o the umanity on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 11:00:39 AM PDT

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        •  He'll be reelected, but I think you're right. I'm (0+ / 0-)

          afraid he might be tied and tainted permanently

          "[K]now that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy." -Barack Obama

          by Battle4Seattle on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 12:33:56 PM PDT

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        •  Yes o you are spot on as usual, and what I find (1+ / 0-)
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          so sadly frustrating is that Obama was handed a revolution of spirit, an opportunity to dramatically change the world just by being brave, smart, and honest.  He shows two of those qualities everyday.  He underestimated his power and those who backed him, and that is a crime that he could never live down.  Oh the humanity!  Peace.

          P.S.  Thanks Jessica, you are a true patriot, and a true hero in my book of Truth, Honor, and Justice.  Peace

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