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  •  But signers getting harassed? (3+ / 0-)
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    devtob, splashy, Jyrinx

    Organizers and leaders, sure.  Mere signers?  Did it happen in Massachusetts when they published the names?

    •  And does the anonymous harassment (0+ / 0-)

      of initiative organizers/leaders ever rise above the level of a minor misdemeanor to a real crime?

      Or are they just crying to the press and the courts about some nasty e-mails, in order to run down their opponents and raise money?

      Rhetorical questions, both.

      A public option for health insurance is a national priority.

      by devtob on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 07:53:40 PM PDT

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    •  I don't know about MA (0+ / 0-)

      Here, the petition effort is just getting under way. They won't have the actual petitions out for one to two weeks. So we don't know yet. I presume the names cannot be made public until the petitions are filed, right? So it would be some time before any retaliation would occur.

      Would they go after signers... who knows? These people are nuts. But my point was more that fear is already our biggest enemy in this fight. Those who are being oppressed and targeted need to stand together and fight back, but feel threatened already.

      Knowing that their names and addresses where they live will be made public might make people reluctant to sign, even if they oppose the law or want a vote on it at least. So I'm just agreeing with the idea that when we are the potential victims of retaliation for our signature, the issue looks a little different.

      •  wait don't they already publish the names? (0+ / 0-)

        I thought it was crazy if they publish the names of the signers but not the funders.

        I don't sign any petitions myself, just because I figure they'll end up in a database someplace.

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