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  •  We have enough regulations on the books (1+ / 0-)
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    Battle4Seattle

    now to stop any food borne illnesses. There needs to be enforcement. Fine the companies out of business.

    And as I understand most of these "food safety bills" are nothing more than the implementation of Codex Alimentarius "standards".

    They won't stop gmo crops or even the labeling of gmo foods so we can chose what we eat.

    They won't stop the crowding of thousands of animals in unclean and disease spreading conditions.

    They won't stop the use of hormones in feed that cause millions of Americans to have allergic responses.

    The claims that they will create accountability is unfounded and the only way it will be remotely possible is to spend billions more on hiring and training or re-training agents to do more.

    The The creation of one super agency will be a disaster waiting to happen.

    IMHO. I don't trust the motives or the outcome of these things, when we already have County Health Departments that could be funded to stop immediately any and all dangers to our food supply.

    They just need to be funded.

    •  I tend to agree. I think these kind of "powers" (3+ / 0-)
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      gerrilea, gravlax, DawnN

      for the secretary will probably just promote more use of things like irradiation or adding amonia to meats to kill things like e-coli.

      There's no evidence our gov't cares one iota about ending feed lots or animals being bred from birth to slaughter in total darkness.

      "[K]now that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy." -Barack Obama

      by Battle4Seattle on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 10:06:11 PM PDT

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    •  we agree that funding is important (3+ / 0-)
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      gerrilea, the fan man, DawnN

      but I would like to point out that County Health Departments and the Federal regulators are paid out of different purses.  I would also like to point out that County Health Departments don't always have the authority to regulate large scale producers depending on the laws of that particular county.

      As to your point about fining companies out of business, I would suggest that this bill makes that more possible.  That is what I mean by increased accountability.

      I would like to see some evidence to back up your claim that

      The claims that they will create accountability is unfounded and the only way it will be remotely possible is to spend billions more on hiring and training or re-training agents to do more.

      "when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -6.75, -6.26

      by gravlax on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:51 PM PDT

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      •  This is absolutely true (2+ / 0-)
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        gravlax, DawnN

        But here in NY, I know that any County Health Department can shut down any business that causes an emminent threat to the public.

        Remember that tainted peanut butter? Well, had the FDA just made ONE phone call, to the local County Health Department, it would have been shut down until all dangers to the public were corrected.

        As the facts have been revealed, the FDA knew of the violations of said plant for over 3 months.

        No need for a new Federal Agency or the DHS to "quarantine" an entire State if they so choose, creating de-facto martial law.

        Remember the fake swine flu propaganda?

        This is a dangerous path we are on, all in the name of "safety".

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