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View Diary: S.510:  Food Safety Bill Debate Continues (just not in the Senate) (37 comments)

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  •  I heard the same re: cloned animals (2+ / 0-)
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    gerrilea, Battle4Seattle

    and I have to agree that I am horrified by the concept as well.  I would certainly shout at the top of my lungs for the right to know whether my food came from a cloned animal.  I'm a moderate but I'm not crazy.  That issue is too important.

    As to tumors and chips i can't say that I know much about it.  All I know is that my sister is a vet and all 4 of her pets have the chip embedded.  I do not believe that she would do that if she felt that the risk of cancer was too great.  These are some seriously well cared for animals.

    "when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -6.75, -6.26

    by gravlax on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 11:10:54 PM PDT

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    •  My cat's chipped too, although she was "made" (2+ / 0-)
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      that way before I rescued her from a shelter. What happens is that many pets die of cancer, but autopsies are not done (or shared, at least). Some owners, who have had their pets autopsied, have, indeed, found large tumors at the chip site.

      I just wondered if livestock are actually chipped. I hope not--and if there's any talk of doing it, it should be thoroughly studied first. Otherwise, we might be "eating" animals with cancer we knowingly give them. Um, evil?

      "[K]now that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy." -Barack Obama

      by Battle4Seattle on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 11:19:08 PM PDT

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      •  My guess (2+ / 0-)
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        is that livestock isn't chipped only because the conditions in which they are raised don't really allow them to get away.  Without that opportunity there is no real need for a chip.  I'm not standing up for corporations but they wouldn't separate from a dime that they didn't have to.

        I certainly will ask my sister about the cancer at the chip site phenomenon

        "when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -6.75, -6.26

        by gravlax on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 11:22:44 PM PDT

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        •  I'd love to hear her take on it. It's an (2+ / 0-)
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          important issue, especially for those of us who dearly love our pets.

          "[K]now that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy." -Barack Obama

          by Battle4Seattle on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 11:26:00 PM PDT

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        •  If I remember correctly (1+ / 0-)
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          One of these "food safety bills" allowed for big businesses to buy 1 tag for every 1000 heads of animals...where as smaller family run farms would have to buy one for each animal and I think they ranged from $20 to $100...

          So, my best guess would be the tag would be only a "symbol" of safety and not any actual benefits to it, except raising funds for this new "agency".

          Imagine having to buy a tag for a chicken within 3 days of it's birth and if you don't you could be socked with a $500,000 fine. And the chicken is only worth $3 per. That wouldn't help us in this economy...imagine paying $40 or $50 dollars per pound for a chicken.

          •  I was just scanning the bill, and the fees can be (2+ / 0-)
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            gerrilea, gravlax

            enormous. Wow.

            This is interesting:

            SEC. 309. FOREIGN OFFICES OF THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION.

            (a) In General- The Secretary shall establish offices of the Food and Drug Administration in foreign countries selected by the Secretary, to provide assistance to the appropriate governmental entities of such countries with respect to measures to provide for the safety of articles of food and other products regulated by the Food and Drug Administration exported by such country to the United States, including by directly conducting risk-based inspections of such articles and supporting such inspections by such governmental entity.

            I like this section:

            SEC. 1012. WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTIONS.

            (a) In General- No entity engaged in the manufacture, processing, packing, transporting, distribution, reception, holding, or importation of food may discharge an employee or otherwise discriminate against an employee with respect to compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment because the employee, whether at the employee's initiative or in the ordinary course of the employee's duties (or any person acting pursuant to a request of the employee)--

            `(1) provided, caused to be provided, or is about to provide or cause to be provided to the employer, the Federal Government, or the attorney general of a State information relating to any violation of, or any act or omission the employee reasonably believes to be a violation of any provision of this Act or any order, rule, regulation, standard, or ban under this Act, or any order, rule, regulation, standard, or ban under this Act;

            `(2) testified or is about to testify in a proceeding concerning such violation;

            `(3) assisted or participated or is about to assist or participate in such a proceeding; or

            `(4) objected to, or refused to participate in, any activity, policy, practice, or assigned task that the employee (or other such person) reasonably believed to be in violation of any provision of this Act, or any order, rule, regulation, standard, or ban under this Act.

            http://thomas.loc.gov/...

            I definitely think whistleblowers concerned about our food safety should be 100% protected. Of course, the administration is currently pursuing lots of whistelblowers, so . . .

            "[K]now that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy." -Barack Obama

            by Battle4Seattle on Thu Apr 29, 2010 at 11:43:56 PM PDT

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