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  •  one thing to consider (2+ / 0-)
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    the fan man, A Siegel

    in the climates of the places you mentioned, central-southern Japan and Italy, you can raise crops much of the year. Try that in MNPLSTPL. That puts pressure on land use options, building get used year round while farmland sits idle; that's a powerful force for the conversion of urban or near-urban agricultural lands to other uses. Some places that enacted greenbelt and ag land protect measures back in the 1970s have seen public pressure to overturn those laws for the purpose of rezoning for housing or commercial use.

    •  Greenbelt and land preservation are not the (1+ / 0-)
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      A Siegel

      same as keeping active farms in production, which many municipalities are finding out. I think in Portland, greenbelting didn't turn out as expected. In Britain there also was pressure to remove some areas from greenbelts.

      "The central tenet of Buddhism is not 'Every man for himself'" - A Fish Called Wanda

      by the fan man on Sat May 01, 2010 at 12:13:25 PM PDT

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      •  land preservation is/was indeed about farms (1+ / 0-)
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        A Siegel

        in the area; I specifically said "greenbelt and ag land protect measures" (should have been 'protection', stumblefingers).

        Greenbelting was mostly preserving unused land, at that time much of which was either not buildable or on the edge of such terrain. Since then it became cheaper to build on those slopes, and the green belts were chipped away at.  Land protection was more for the river valley farms, much of which is now new housing and business parks, although the County did put much of their emergency response and communication centers in the flood plains as well.

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