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  •  This is a serious question, at the center of it (7+ / 0-)

    Common Carriage is a term that came out of the principle of universal service.

    AT&T for instance, "must carry" signals from non-AT&T originator companies, especially for local phone service.  That way there is a common pathway for electronic service (including electric power.)

    Does the same thing apply to cable companies?  The history isn't instructive really, because they were originally just a way to get some more TV channels to local subscribers.  This wasn't seen as addressing "necessity or convenience."

    ISPs have a similar short history.  Since the Reagan and Bush I&II eras, the
    free market principle" has overwhelmed concerns about common carriage. Even progressive policy wonks have steered away from talking about universal service because the prevailing climate became so "free market," where all this comes from, in the PhD programs where the policy comes from.

    What is emerging, after the Citizens United decision, is an imperative to restore the universal service philosophy.  That may depend on the ability of a lot of embedded PhDs in the system to do a 180 about face turn away from an entire education.

    I think those who read and post here really need to take on the challenge of becoming educated on these issues and to deal yourself into the debate at the policy level.

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Mon May 03, 2010 at 10:10:46 AM PDT

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    •  The regulatory tip of an iceberg: Common Carriage (7+ / 0-)

      The ubiquity and concentration of infrastructure makes universal service more palatable more now than ever before, but there are multiple layers of regulatory hurdles for liberating the network and a complex terrain of ownership and property rights. It is less a restoration of universal service philosophy than rethinking it in terms of broadband technologies layered onto actual infrastructure, especially since the issues that impinge on democratic principles will be at risk as well as free speech far beyond Citizens United.

      "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

      by annieli on Mon May 03, 2010 at 10:20:32 AM PDT

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      •  Everybody ought to read annieli's comment (3+ / 0-)
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        There are a few comments that really deserve to be highlighted, maybe even carved in stone because they are informed and instructive.

        The above, about the regulatory tip of the iceberg, is one.  

        hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

        by Stuart Heady on Mon May 03, 2010 at 10:25:06 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks Stuart, :) n/t (0+ / 0-)

          "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

          by annieli on Mon May 03, 2010 at 10:28:10 AM PDT

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        •  Would you mind recommending some starter (1+ / 0-)
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          books or links for any of us who take your above comment to heart?  Yes, I do need to educate myself.  We have already seen in this debate that you might be convinced that black is white if you don't know what is going on.

          This is a very informative discussion.  I'm appreciating you experts taking the time.

          We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.

          by geomoo on Mon May 03, 2010 at 11:13:28 AM PDT

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    •  Those cable companies were given a monopoly by (4+ / 0-)
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      communities to pay for infrastructure to that community DECADES ago. They are still riding some kind of free from competition crappola Bell used to get with just phone service. Remember  getting a few $500+ phone bills from them before they were forced to carry competitors.

      Wow had flashback to the Movies...  the one about the phone company as an evil empire.

      Fear is the Mind Killer

      by boophus on Mon May 03, 2010 at 10:36:11 AM PDT

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      •  The scene in Fun With Dick and Jane (1+ / 0-)
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        when Jane Fonda and George Segal rob the phone company.  The long line of people waiting to talk with the tyrannical customer service reps breaks into spontaneous applause.

        And don't forget Ernestine, Lily Tomlin's operator:

        We don't care, we don't have to... we're the phone company.

        Tomlin turned down $500,000 from AT&T to play that role in an ad.

        We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.

        by geomoo on Mon May 03, 2010 at 11:21:18 AM PDT

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        •  Oh wow forgot those 2 greats. Well looks like we' (0+ / 0-)

          re in for a repeat with the internet but I think it will last less time because people are already talking new Wifi.

          Fear is the Mind Killer

          by boophus on Mon May 03, 2010 at 10:41:52 PM PDT

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