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  •  Say "Hi!" to Senator Portman. (1+ / 0-)
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    Why do I say that? Do you know how many times I have written Secretary Brunner encouraging her to visit East Ohio? While Cleveland is the only reliable blue section of Ohio, East Ohio is the hardcore blue section that is subject to swing. Unfortunately, Brunner only visited here once. Without East Ohio, you cannot win as a Democrat. Brunner is toast, and Fisher is a weakling.

    My favorite Republican, George Voinovich, will be replaced by an extremist named Rob Portman.

    •  I understand your feeling of neglect (3+ / 0-)
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      but the numbers just don't justify what you want/ "East" Ohio, wherever that is, simply doesn't have enough voters, no matter how "hardcore blue" it is (what section is THAT?). It's so sparsely populated, she can probably get more votes out of one neighborhood in Cleveland. It's a difficult but realistic choice to make - you cna't race around everywhere, so you have to go where the votes are. And you don't win a Democratic primary in "east" Ohio; you are not toast without "east" Ohio unless you mean Northeast Ohio (Cleveland, Akron, Canton, Youngstown) I wish you could clarify where you are talking about. What district?

      Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com

      by anastasia p on Mon May 03, 2010 at 09:06:42 PM PDT

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      •  I don't call Youngstown to Marietta "sparse" (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm sure Governor Strickland didn't either when he represented that district.

        P.S. Check out Kerry's 2004 numbers from Youngstown to Marietta.

        •  Well, you weren't at all clear (0+ / 0-)

          WHERE you were talking about. Youngstown is a fairly large population base, and Jennifer has been there repeatedly. The Young Democrats and the black Democratic group there have worked ceasely for her since last July. She has also made a number of appearances in Marietta, even though there aren't that many votes there for a Democrat, unless you want to demagogue gay marriage and ban abortions apparently (inside reference). It's a plain fact of life that you won't get that many voters in a Democratic PRIMARY there. Also Strickland never represented Youngstown — Oh-06. That's Tim Ryan;'s district. He represented a sprawling rural district where again, not that many Democrats will turn out for a primary, and this district is never key in a Democratic primary.

          Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com

          by anastasia p on Tue May 04, 2010 at 04:54:55 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, he did represent OH-6. (2+ / 0-)
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            Stretches from Youngstown to Scioto County. Now represented by Charlie Wilson. I had to be careful when distributing campaign literature 2 years ago to grab Wulsin bags, not Wilson bags, since my county is divided between OH-2 and OH-6.

            "YOU SIR ARE A DISGRAC!!!" - from Hate mail-palooza, 2/27/10

            by Ahianne on Tue May 04, 2010 at 05:43:58 AM PDT

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            •  Yes, but Youngstown (0+ / 0-)

              which is a population base, isn't in the district. Nor is Canton, the next nearly population base to the south. That's in Oh-16.

              Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com

              by anastasia p on Tue May 04, 2010 at 05:53:36 AM PDT

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              •  Don't be sore at us because Jen will lose (0+ / 0-)

                It's not our fault that Jennifer Brunner is going to get trounced today.

                I have posted, blogged, knocked, and phoned for her. But, since she chose to ignore the manufacturing and union Democratic base in East Ohio, she doesn't have a prayer.

                Getting snippy with people like me, anastasia, won't win Brunner the primary.

                With good planning, she could have covered the entire Ohio 6 in a single day. But, she was too busy for us little people along the Ohio River.

    •  Weren't you insisting (1+ / 0-)
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      ..that Obama was going to lose, based on almost identical "reasoning"?

      "YOU SIR ARE A DISGRAC!!!" - from Hate mail-palooza, 2/27/10

      by Ahianne on Tue May 04, 2010 at 05:38:09 AM PDT

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      •  No, you are thinking of Ohiobama (1+ / 0-)
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        who currently is posting hysterical diaries claiming  his candidate for Oh-02 is being "swiftboated," because he was caught making ethnic slurs against his opponent and castigated by the state and a couple of county party chairs. Ohiobama ceaselessly claimed Obama would lose because he didn't have an office in every ruby-red little Ohio town with a population of more than 1,000. I guess things look different from Pike County.

        Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com

        by anastasia p on Tue May 04, 2010 at 05:55:32 AM PDT

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        •  Oh, I remember similar nonsense from Ohiobama, (1+ / 0-)
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          ..but I'm pretty sure mph2005 was at it too.

          "YOU SIR ARE A DISGRAC!!!" - from Hate mail-palooza, 2/27/10

          by Ahianne on Tue May 04, 2010 at 06:21:59 AM PDT

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        •  Found one of the comments. (1+ / 0-)
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          Here. I may see if there are any closer parallels.

          "YOU SIR ARE A DISGRAC!!!" - from Hate mail-palooza, 2/27/10

          by Ahianne on Tue May 04, 2010 at 06:58:33 AM PDT

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          •  Since I've become the topic (0+ / 0-)

            The diary that Ahianne so kindly found is dated Sept. 7, 2008. That was before the financial crisis hit, and before Obama made his big push in Ohio, including a bus tour of southwest Ohio.

            Since Obama eventually won Ohio by only 3.5 points, it is more than reasonable to say that had it not been for the financial crisis, and the campaign's push in Ohio, Obama would indeed have lost the state.

            My point made throughout that campaign was that Obama needed to visit the swing areas of south-central and southwest Ohio to stay competitive. The campaign took my advice, and Obama visited Portsmouth and Chillicothe, saving his numbers in this crucial swing area.

            After the visit, I predicted that Obama would win Ohio as a result.

            The comment that started this thread is well taken. Not only has Brunner neglected parts of eastern Ohio, but she completely neglected south-central Ohio, where Fisher is trouncing her in polls.

            I support Brunner, but I fear she followed Anastasia's bad advice and focused on high-density areas, rather than realize that Ohio is a rural state, and no urban strategy can compensate for neglecting broad swaths of territory.

            In rural areas, you have to visit to get newspaper coverage, and that makes all the difference. In big cities, the papers already cover the campaign, no matter what.  Regional scope is for media access, not direct voter contact.

            Politics 101.

            "Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." -- Ambrose Bierce

            by Ohiobama on Tue May 04, 2010 at 11:53:38 AM PDT

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        •  Some major errors of fact (0+ / 0-)

          David Krikorian wasn'r "caught" doing anything, which is precisely why the slanders against him constitute swiftboating.

          The false charge that he made some "racist" comment was made by the Republican incumbent, Jean Schmidt, a notorious liar, who was not present when the alleged comment was made. There's no tape and no identified witness.  All who were there say that Krikorian made no such remark.

          So how was he "caught"?  Explain please.

          My last five diaries, accessible through my blogroll, relate the facts of the matter.

          Vote Krikorian and Brunner today!

          "Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." -- Ambrose Bierce

          by Ohiobama on Tue May 04, 2010 at 12:05:20 PM PDT

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