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  •  Dean should hire Frost (4.00)
    to help his candidacy.  What a stroke of luck.

    From a biz book a few years ago ("co-opetition"), a buyer can be helped by the emergence of an additional seller who helps drive down the price at the buyer's ideal seller.

    In politics, a candidate can be helped by the emergence or promotion of a second candidate who reminds voters of everything the first candidate is not.

    Precedent? Kerry vs. Dean.

    Now we have: Dean vs. Frost.

    •  Democrats rejected Dean months ago (1.22)
      We had caususes and primaries remember? Dean was beaten by more moderate candidates. Frost is a moderate. Just like Clinton. Don't tell me he's not partisan either.
      •  Not Really (4.00)
        First, Dean was running for the Presidential nomination, not DNC Chair.

        Secondly, with the singular exception of the War (on which most Democrats agreed more with Dean than with Kerry), Kerry is actually a little to Dean's left on most issues.

        The Dean vs. Kerry matchup was not about liberal/progressive vs. moderate.  It was about a) candidates with two very different political styles, b) two very different campaigns, and c) political newcomers vs. the old guard.

        Oh yes...the race was also essentially decided by people in two states: IA and NH, so this hardly says much about what Democrats on the whole think now about the DNC Chair (which is also not selected by Democrats as a whole, but rather by the DNC, who I believe are all superdelegates, but who don't have much effect on the dynamic of the primary race).

        Full disclosure: I am not, nor was I ever, a Deaniac.  I do think he makes a lot of sense as chair of the Democratic Party (though you're welcome to take the opinion of a Green with a grain of salt).

        Start doing the things you think should be done, and start being what you think society should become. -Adam Michnik.

        by GreenSooner on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 05:36:03 PM PST

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      •  Dean's fall (none)
        was Kerry's rise.

        It would be helpful to Dean if someone (say Frost) were to enter loudly then fall loudly.

      •  Anyone (4.00)
        who uses Bush in an ad is NO moderate

        "September 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat

        by SanJoseLady on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 07:12:09 PM PST

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      •  All of us know Dean was (none)
        done in by the media & "democratic" leadership.

        I have never understood this "Anti War"="Left Wing".

        For eg. take this NYT piece.

        To some extent, that accounts for the uneasiness among many Democrats about Dr. Dean, who is so closely identified with the party's antiwar left.

        For a long time 50% of the people have been anti-war. So do 50% of people make up "Left wing democratic party" ? What is the media "elite" smoking ?

        Ofcourse Dean saw the writing on the wall long before less informed people did ... so from when is that supposed to be a BAD thing ?

        Everytime Dean runs for anything, you can bet on the fact that media is going to drum up his supposed non-mainstream "left wing" ideology, endlessly.

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