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  •  And deport the 20 million undocumented in US? (12+ / 0-)

    Sorry but the question doesn't have any immigration reform in it.  Everything mentioned would satisfy AZ Gov. Brewer and AZ shoot-em up Sheriff Arpaio.

    The nut of the question is what happens to the 20 million undocumented workers in US right now? The "register" question begs that question. Sheriff Arpaio would read it as they turn themselves in and get deported.  I'd read it as they get "work permits" similar to driver's license that included social security number for tax purposes.

    So the real divergence will be when you ask people what should happen to undocumented worker's in the US, stay and get documents or get deported.

    •  WORD. If you're going to waste money on a poll... (9+ / 0-)

      .... ask some questions about the real thorns to passing it. This one is useless.

    •  Exactly. Ask an openended question, and see (3+ / 0-)
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      Mark27, annieli, Billy3

      what the answer is:  How would you like to fix immigration reform?

      90% will say deport those that are here now----without any plan for anything else.

      All other remedies are meaningless, after that.

      •  Legal to come to US for work. Illegal to hire. (0+ / 0-)

        Put it ENTIRELY on the employers who are the real problem, luring people to US for cheap labor and then advocating harsh treatment for them to keep costs down and control easy.

        Mexicans want to come look for work, apply for visa which just gets security background check, and they can come look for work.

        If anyone hires them, EMPLOYER pays huge fine and pays worker four weeks wages at minimum wage plus all local and Federal payrolls taxes.  

        We would have to spend any money on enforcement as workers would be hiring themselves out and turning employers in for reward of a months pay.  Whatever money we did spend is covered by the fines on employers.

        That would be put an end to all the illegal immigration problems.

    •  Hard to tell from question, but an asterisk (0+ / 0-)

      certainly is called for.

      The key phrase is:

      require illegal immigrants to register for legal immigration status

      If we want to be fair to the people who are already here -- people who came when "illegal" wasn't exactly treated that way, then we need to be sure that there is a legal status they can acquire.

      Personally, I'm all in favor of begging off on permanent answers, cracking down on employers, beefing up border enforcement, and placing illegal immigrants caught up in the sweep in a sort of temporary "legal for now" status that ensures they are not exploited by employers and have recourse to the same protections anybody else does.

      With the scariest problems triaged, sensible handling of immigrants could take place in a less charged atmosphere.

      Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

      by dinotrac on Fri May 07, 2010 at 01:02:22 PM PDT

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    •  Not 20 million workers, 11 to 12 million of (5+ / 0-)

      all ages, mostly working age, but many others.  

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Fri May 07, 2010 at 01:04:06 PM PDT

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