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  •  "Abortion is bad." (11+ / 0-)

    No, it's not. For an unwanted or dangerous pregnancy, [safe] abortion is really good.

    I agree with the rest of your comment.

    •  Abortion is bad. (1+ / 0-)
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      An abortion is painful. It uses medical resources that are expensive and which could have been used elsewhere. You can die undergoing an abortion if something goes wrong. There is almost nobody who would choose to have an abortion if they could instead choose to not have become pregnant retrospectively. Those are just some of the most obvious reasons abortions are bad.

      •  I agree that it should be prevented... (11+ / 0-)

        where possible, if only because there are better options for people to use that are less invasive and dangerous (ie, reliable contraception). But since nothing is 100%, abortion will always need to be an available option. And while we can't eliminate all the medical risk associated with it (a risk, BTW, which is much less than the risk associated with continuing a pregnancy), we can work to minimize the stigma and demonization associated with abortion. The stigma that some people seek to impose on it makes it much worse for women than it otherwise would need to be.

        I have to wonder, though: is pregnancy "bad"? Childbirth and pregnancy can be dangerous and even kill you if something goes wrong. It also uses medical resources that are expensive and which could have been used elsewhere. So if abortion is "bad", pregnancy is "bad", also, unless you're using some more subjective standard besides just risk and cost. I would say that it doesn't really make sense to compare abortion to pregnancy prevention: they are really complementary approaches. Prevention is always better, but if that doesn't happen for some reason abortion is a perfectly acceptable, and "good", alternative to continuing an unwanted pregnancy.

        •  Pregnancy is bad too! (2+ / 0-)
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          DocGonzo, elwior

          The very end of pregnancy is the worst part (and afterwards, it's hard to sneeze without peeing).

          I'm not saying that there aren't very, very good reasons for having an abortion or having a pregnancy (although since both of my former pregnancies that were carried to term are now teenagers, I'm kind of vague on what those reasons might be).

      •  No, abortion is inherently good. It's much (9+ / 0-)

        safer and less painful than pregnancy and childbirth.

        In the U.S., abortion is the only medical procedure that poses a bigger threat to health care providers than to patients (because of terrorism).

        I'm glad you're pro-choice, but please learn the facts on this sensitive topic before posting.

        •  Not as Bad != Good (1+ / 0-)
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          Abortion is bad. It's not as bad as the alternatives in many cases. And the decision of which is less bad is between the woman and her dispassionate doctor.

          "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

          by DocGonzo on Wed May 12, 2010 at 11:41:39 AM PDT

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        •  abortion is a way to not give birth to a baby; (0+ / 0-)

          pregnancy followed by childbirth is a way to give birth to a baby, so there is an inherent problem with comparing pregnancy which a woman chooses to end with an abortion to pregnancy which a woman welcomes because she wants to have a child.

          There are many ways to not give birth to a baby:

          1. You can be physically incapable of childbirth (a male person or an infertile female)
          1. You can choose not to have sex. Sometimes males rape you, so #2 is not a choice you can always reliably make.
          1. You can use birth control. Unfortunately, birth control is not always effective.
          1. You may initially want to give birth to a baby, and later, after becoming pregnant, change your mind about this. This can happen because of your health, your fetus' health, or for other reasons.

          So if you have become pregnant because option 2 or 3 has been ineffective, or option 4 has occurred, you find yourself in the position of wishing to not give birth to a baby.

          For women who do not want to give birth to a child, pregnancy is bad, and an abortion which ends the pregnancy is only "good" because it is better for the woman herself than the alternative of giving birth to a child. I doubt there are many women who would prefer to have had an abortion to terminate a pregnancy than to have never become pregnant in the first place.

          Being pregnant and deciding that you do not wish to give birth to and/or care for a baby and child for 18 years is very different from being pregnant and wishing to give birth to a baby, and comparing the two situations and saying that one is safer than the other and therefore "good" is just silly.

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