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  •  Al Franken (2+ / 0-)
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    The Republicans have turned into Archie Bunker's evil twin of the 21st Century.

    by gooderservice on Fri May 14, 2010 at 07:07:41 AM PDT

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    •  Franken ran a traditional campaign (1+ / 0-)
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      with the full support of his party. Therefore, he's not a populist.

      You folks are using populist as a synonym for progressive, which just ain't kosher.

      "Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." -- Ambrose Bierce

      by Ohiobama on Fri May 14, 2010 at 07:10:54 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not talking about a political (1+ / 0-)
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        campaign.

        The Republicans have turned into Archie Bunker's evil twin of the 21st Century.

        by gooderservice on Fri May 14, 2010 at 07:19:27 AM PDT

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        •  There's no other meaning of populist (1+ / 0-)
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          the word refers to a style of campaigning, regardless of how it is misused.

          "Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." -- Ambrose Bierce

          by Ohiobama on Fri May 14, 2010 at 07:23:42 AM PDT

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          •  Actually.... (2+ / 0-)
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            Populism n.
            the theory and policies of an American political party ( People's party, 1891-1904) advocating free coinage of gold and silver, public ownership of utilities, an income tax, etc. Populist n. & adj Populism.

            That is from Webster's New world Dictionary. It is an older copy (late 80's perhaps) and I am missing the cover and first few pages so I will also provide a definition from the inter-tubes.

            Pop·u·list
            [pop-yuh-list]
            a member of the People's party.
            (lowercase) a supporter or adherent of populism.
            –adjective
            Also, Pop·u·lis·tic. of or pertaining to the People's party.
            Also, pop·u·lis·tic. (lowercase) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of populism or its adherents.

            Pop·u·lism
               [pop-yuh-liz-uhm]  Show IPA
            –noun
            the political philosophy of the People's party.
            (lowercase) any of various, often antiestablishment or anti-intellectual political movements or philosophies that offer unorthodox solutions or policies and appeal to the common person rather than according with traditional party or partisan ideologies.
            (lowercase) grass-roots democracy; working-class activism; egalitarianism.
            (lowercase) representation or extolling of the common person, the working class, the underdog, etc.: populism in the arts.

            Not that anyone will care, but your interpretation of the meaning of populist is not entirely accurate. I do agree that progressive and populist are not the same thing.

            I find that most people (pundit, reporter, blogger, advocate, tree frogs, what have you) in our society do not seem to care about the actual meaning of the language they throw around. As a result most political speech can mean almost anything... which also means that most of it means nothing at all.

            While I am responding to your post, it is really intended as a larger observation about the overall quality of political discussion in our country. It may never have been better, but the nature of mass communications today make the manipulation and mischaracterization of meaning much more pronounced.

            •  Well then (0+ / 0-)

              In that narrow historical sense, no one can be a Populist today because the People's Party no longer exists. Conversely, everyone could be called a populist because the policies advocated by the PP, like going off the gold standard, became a standard part of US political economy.

              The way the term is used now, retaining some meaning, is to organize in the style of classic populists like the American PP or the Peronists of Argentina, which is to say, to buck the established parties, screw the big banks, and build a new power base among the disenfranchised masses.

              There's no other definition that makes logical sense.

              "Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." -- Ambrose Bierce

              by Ohiobama on Fri May 14, 2010 at 12:48:07 PM PDT

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