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  •  There's a big difference (2+ / 0-)
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    between banning offshore drilling altogether and a permanent moratorium on new offshore drilling.

    And it's not completely clear to me which position you are advocating here.

    •  I am advocating a permanent (7+ / 0-)

      moratorium on all offshore drilling.

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      by slinkerwink on Fri May 14, 2010 at 12:34:23 PM PDT

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      •  And When You Say 'All'... (3+ / 0-)

        You really just mean off US shores, right?  Because all a moratorium will do is shift it to someone else's shores.  Likely, to less well regulated ones at that.

        That's what's happened here in the US you understand, right?  Our oil production peaked decades ago, and when it did, our imports increased dramatically.  All we did was shift if further and further away.  It did absolutely nothing to decrease our energy use.
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        How is that good, apart from being just just basic selfish NIMBYism?

        Again, the absolute best way to get off oil, is by making renewables a better choice.  You want to write cogently about the issue, start there.  Renewables.  Renewables.  Renewables.  Start writing, cause we all know you love writing.  

        •  ???? (0+ / 0-)

          start making renewables a better choice.

          Where?

          On teevee?

          In politics?

          Where would you suggest we start?

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          by o the umanity on Fri May 14, 2010 at 02:08:52 PM PDT

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          •  One way is to tax oil and to subsidize renewables (1+ / 0-)
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            •  of course! (0+ / 0-)

              What I meant was, who's going to "make it happen"?

              This administration? Are they actually talking about doing such things?

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              by o the umanity on Fri May 14, 2010 at 02:35:19 PM PDT

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            •  The problem is it's squeezing the problem (0+ / 0-)

              at the small end and not touching the real problem which is transportation. That's what we need to focus on and what no one wants to touch because of the touchy state of the auto industry and jobs.

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              by KS Rose on Fri May 14, 2010 at 03:04:54 PM PDT

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              •  I agree. (0+ / 0-)

                Lots of transportation has to do with people commuting or traveling for their job, and more work could probably be done at home, or by visioconference etc... Besides, goods could be produced locally. Commerce is organized on the basis of almost free transportation. Make transportation more expensive and the system will reajust.

                Of course this goes against big interests and will be achieved gradually, if ever.

        •  The answer to NIMBY is not (1+ / 0-)
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          letting someone do in your backyard what you don't want done at all. We can't tell other countries what to do with their shorelines, we can only control our own.

          That doesn't mean I, and I'm sure Slink as well, don't advocate for other initiatives to replace Oil usage. And we have to spend more efforts on personal transportation. I'm all for wind and solar and geothermal (if done safely) AND nuclear (again, safely). But those don't even address the real problem. It's all about transport

          Oil use by End Use

          We have to change the dynamic of people driving their cars everywhere no matter what the cost. Comfortable, convenient public transport is one way. Buses need redesigned so that everyone can bring large carts to get their stuff from the bus to their abodes, not unlike airport transports. High speed rail of course. And there's the issue of the rural person. And if you'll note, most rural areas are Republican and that is another reason they fight us on alternative transports. I don't have all the answers I don't even have all the questions, but it's not wind vs oil unless you think we all can have wind powered cars.

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          by KS Rose on Fri May 14, 2010 at 03:00:32 PM PDT

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      •  Because failure is an unacceptable option (3+ / 0-)
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        The oil industry cannot issue any credible claim that deep water drilling is safe.

        It only takes ONE gusher like this to despoil the environment and cause a great deal of economic loss.

        There's a reason our engineers made absolutely certain none of our ICBMs would cook off in their silos. Because just one nuke can ruin you're whole day.

        Well, the oil industry doesn't have anything close to an acceptable track record. PERMANENT BAN until the oil industry can absolutely get it right every single time, under threat of life in prison if this crap ever happens again. Declare ANY well failure to be an act of terrorism, punishable by being dragged off in the dark of night and put on a CIA plane to, well, you don't want to know.

    •  Not A Big Difference. (1+ / 0-)
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      Deep Texan

      Oil is non-renewable, that's (one of) the basic problem with it.  If you stop building new wells, you stop production eventually, because there are no new wells coming online to replace the old ones.  

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