Skip to main content

View Diary: ECSTASY Series: Feedback Systems (25 comments)

Comment Preferences

    •  I just love this diary (5+ / 0-)

      i have this idea from Afrigadgits about solar powered vests and how we can start using them and have teams of bike riders wearing them carrying between them perishable foods for long distances by setting up relay teams. So the energy their solar powered vests and the energy from their cycling produces enough energy to refrigerate the goods they are carrying, to power their head lights so they can tag team travel 24/7 ...  they could perhaps generate enough power to feed into grids along routes and could become the 'sustainable infrastructure' the true green core. rather than rebuilding highwaysm we are just building bikeways ... still fleshing out

    •  do you know if there is a.... (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Milly Watt, WarrenS

      .... wired version of any of these things?  

      I avoid wireless devices because I do not want to broadcast information for God-knows-who to receive.  Cellphones, cordless phones and wireless data networks being the worst of the worst in that department, but even bluetooth devices can be picked up at a distance that would make your hair curl if you knew.  And I do not wish to turn over personal data about my power usage to Google.  

      So the ideal case for me is a hardwired device: basically like the Ted or B&D unit, but with a jack on the side that can be plugged into a wire connected to the display unit at the other end.  

      If such things aren't available commercially, then when I build, I'll install analog panel meters and a resettable cumulative meter indoors, right on the wiring.  

      •  On privacy issues... (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        G2geek

        TED isn't wireless and it's only an option to send data to Google -- you don't have to do it.  

        TED transmits its data from the transmitter in the circuit breaker box over the existing house wiring. The gateway unit plugs into any outlet to receive the data and then plugs into our house's ethernet. I access the data from my laptop at a local web address.  We don't have their display unit.  

        I don't recall whether any of the meter readers had a non-wireless option.  Our meter was too far away in any case.  Having had experience with the history maintained by TED, I don't think the meter reader types would provide the same value.

        Well-behaved women rarely make history - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

        by Milly Watt on Mon May 17, 2010 at 10:45:18 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  excellent! (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Milly Watt

          Now strictly speaking, carrier-current devices (that use house wiring as a means of carrying data) are indeed transmitting in a way that can be utilized by hostile parties, but are far less an issue in that department than the usual types of wireless devices that broadcast through the air.

          BTW, about 25 years ago, the Israeli military were able to interpret the unique start and stop signatures in power graphs, to determine where there were likely nests of Palestinian militants.  One of the things they were able to spot was the signature that accompanies a printing press.  The intel collection & analysis capabilities that were available to militaries a quarter century ago, are very often available to corporate "data miners" today.  

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site