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  •  Sorry I disagree..... (1+ / 0-)
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    livosh1

    General you and I just see thinga differently. You won't accept what I say and I won't accept what you are saying regarding boycotting the IDF. Sorry but we are at an impasse. What can I tell you.

    "No Groin.... No Krav Maga" - The Simpsons

    by volleyboy1 on Thu May 27, 2010 at 12:31:40 PM PDT

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    •  Perhaps I would accept what you say (1+ / 0-)
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      corvo

      If you didn't always dodge my questions.  See that's the trick with talking to others.  When you post your opinion you should always expect follow up questions.  If you refuse to even try to explain your position further by simply stating "I DISAGREE" without further explanation.  Then your opinion can't really stand on it's own two feet.

      I explain and answer your questions.  Yet you don't offer me the same curtsy.  I just posted a picture of an Apache attack on civilians.  You see the same thing as me but state "Sorry I disagree.....".  You then say

      General you and I just see thinga differently

      When the picture we both see of an Apache attack is the same.  It is an Apache attack and neither you nor I are blind.  How do we see the same thing "differently"?

      Why would Israel need Apaches?  How much weapons does a nation of "6 million" need?  Or do they need so many weapons to keep in check the other 6 million that live in it's occupied umbrella?  

      I will vote, but always with a caution that voting is not crucial, and organizing is the important thing.

      by General Choomin on Thu May 27, 2010 at 12:48:38 PM PDT

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      •  Gen. I am not ducking your questions (3+ / 0-)
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        You phrase posts and responses in a way that I don't agree with and you say things that I simply don't accept as true the way you put them.

        So you showed an Apache attack. If I were in Israel I would want one of those defending me.

        Just take this phrase:

        Why would Israel need Apaches?  How much weapons does a nation of "6 million" need?  Or do they need so many weapons to keep in check the other 6 million that live in it's occupied umbrella?

        They need as many as they need to keep them safe and powerful. I mean what kind of question is that. Look at the way you phrased it.

        Your questions and rhetoric are so loaded and you are so insulting in my opinion that I simply don't want to deal. Pretty much that should sum it up.

        I can't even begin to discuss things with you because we see things completely differently. I understand you have an opinion and that is great but I don't share your opinion. Pretty much that is that.

        "No Groin.... No Krav Maga" - The Simpsons

        by volleyboy1 on Thu May 27, 2010 at 12:58:01 PM PDT

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        •  This is going to go line by line. (1+ / 0-)
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          You phrase posts and responses in a way that I don't agree with and you say things that I simply don't accept as true the way you put them.

          Ignore the "phrasing" and answer the content of my questions.  Saying that you don't agree with or can't accept my statements as true even in direct questions is another excuse to me.  I have multiple times asked direct and none controversial questions in which you refused to answer.  I am not asking you to play semantics games.  I am asking you for answers and discourse.

          So you showed an Apache attack. If I were in Israel I would want one of those defending me.

          You aren't in Israel and that picture is in no way what anyone would call "defense".

          They need as many as they need to keep them safe and powerful. I mean what kind of question is that. Look at the way you phrased it.

          You don't explain why they need it to "keep them safe".  I guess you partially answered my question when you said "powerful".  When you ask "what kind of question is that".  I can only respond by saying that it's a real one.  If you don't like my "phrasing" then address the content of it.  As I said, I'm not here to play semantics games.

          Your questions and rhetoric are so loaded and you are so insulting in my opinion that I simply don't want to deal. Pretty much that should sum it up.

          I am rather blunt.  But I try to be respectful to those that reciprocate it back.  Even when it's not mutual I still try to be respectful.  Don't tell me my questions are "so loaded and insulting".  Because i've been insulted personally so many times in these diaries by you and others that you shouldn't even bring it up.

          When I ask questions, please try to answer them.  I try to be respectful in these diaries as much as humanly possible.  But when people have meta conversations which consist of insulting me and others.  Well, that doesn't help.  Just like the one you had with Paul in this very diary.  As well as countless other meta discussions in various diaries.  You say I insult you with my questions yet you enable as well as insult me with such meta drivel.  

          My questions and rhetoric are not as loaded as you say anyways.  Just asking your opinion on Finklestein or Chomsky gets you into full dodge mode.  Saying I ask "loaded" question that are insulting is not true.  As I have interacted with you many times before.  I even uprate you when I agree with you and vice versa.  

          I can't even begin to discuss things with you because we see things completely differently.


          How do we see things completely differently?  You don't explain that.  Hell that's the excuse you use to not explain it.  

          I understand you have an opinion and that is great but I don't share your opinion. Pretty much that is that.

          Yes, I have an opinion.  It is great that I have an opinion.  It is also great that you have an opinion.  The problem here is that I can't ask questions about your opinion.  Which makes it hard for me to even know what your opinion is.  

          I will vote, but always with a caution that voting is not crucial, and organizing is the important thing.

          by General Choomin on Thu May 27, 2010 at 01:37:27 PM PDT

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          •  Read my diaries - that is my opinion (1+ / 0-)
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            livosh1

            I type it everyday here. What do you want to know? I don't agree with you on this issue (I/P) and I see things differently. So? You asked a question regarding Apaches. I think Iarael needs them to defend itself - you don't. We disagree

            Frankly, the way you phrase things is key in a discussion. I do uprate you at times when we do agree and I agree vice versa. But in general I have a tough time with your line of questioning because I object to the question itself. I won't answer it because the question alone does not lend itself to discussion.

            You asked me about Apaches - I answered. You are not changing my mind. So just accept that is my opinon. You are certainly welcome to disagree but your response doesn't warrant any change.

            Just ask the question free of rhetoric and you will find me more willing to answer.

            "No Groin.... No Krav Maga" - The Simpsons

            by volleyboy1 on Thu May 27, 2010 at 01:52:28 PM PDT

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