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  •  One way this community can help (7+ / 0-)

    Give us the names of the people, corporations and institutions involved. I guarantee that 24 hours of research following the money will tell us much of what we want to know. Give us the details, and let us go to work on these very "bad people."

    There are just 10 kinds of people; those who know binary and those who don't.

    by RudiB on Sun May 16, 2010 at 03:29:45 PM PDT

    •  i was reluctant to even post the story (7+ / 0-)

      because it's so murky (i literally don't know the name of the facility in question)..

      i appreciate your wanting to help -- i just am not sure what the best way to help is right now

      •  It is a difficult decision. (2+ / 0-)

        But the people who make money from this are the only people who should be living there in the future.

        As for being a "whistle-blower".... If it were easy everyone would do it.

        Dear President Obama, You must do the right thing; even if it is the most difficult. Investigate George W. Bush for war crimes!

        by DerAmi on Sun May 16, 2010 at 03:48:06 PM PDT

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      •  It probably doesn't have a name (5+ / 0-)

        Because it doesn't advertise and isn't licensed.  This may be a place that only takes clients from legitimate care facilities that want to dump their less desirable residents.  You might have to look in the county property tax records to see who owns it.

        •  Isn't licensed?! (0+ / 0-)

          Seems odd, even for Mississippi. Call the Mississippi Department of Health. The main number is -- Central Office Phone 601-576-7400  (8am-5pm).

          Here is a list of MS regulations for various kinds of facilities.

          Start with the "good" facility that refers residents to this hell hole. Start with an address or a telephone number. Start with the name of any adult who seems to be in  charge. Start!

          There are just 10 kinds of people; those who know binary and those who don't.

          by RudiB on Sun May 16, 2010 at 09:20:39 PM PDT

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      •  you can look up the owner of any property (2+ / 0-)
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        that is the first thing I would do to learn who owns the building they took her to.

        With the address, you would be amazed at what a few dedicated progressive bloggers can accomplish!

    •  And what then? (3+ / 0-)
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      I've seen this before with state facilities.  You will get some people fired, and get the facility shut down.  Maybe there will be some legal action.  Your adolescent senses of right and wrong will be satisfied, and maybe we can have a circle jerk.

      What happens to the people who live there?  They will be dumped into the street, while some overworked social worker tries to find more disability housing.  Will you offer up a spare room for a couple hundred a month?

      The system is broken, and the people suffering from it most are the last to be considered.

      •  What the fu....? (0+ / 0-)

        Are you one of the mean people? Sure sounds like it.

        Dear President Obama, You must do the right thing; even if it is the most difficult. Investigate George W. Bush for war crimes!

        by DerAmi on Sun May 16, 2010 at 03:43:19 PM PDT

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        •  I volunteer (6+ / 0-)

          And I see this stuff all the time.  If the community wanted to help, they would go in and clean up the facility.  They would bring tools, and bring it up to code.  They would pressure the cops to make rounds.

          When that is done, by all means go after those who run the facility.

          I don't or have never worked in one of these facilities, but I've been in worse.  If you talk to a social worker, they will ask who else offers disability housing for the mentally ill.

          The problem is the system.  This is a symptom.  When people gasped at the state run facilities, the politicians simply kicked everyone out.

          Don't simply ask your politician to crack down on the people running this place.  Ask them to provide better support for the mentally ill.

      •  That is over the top in my opinion (2+ / 0-)
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        I understand you work with people suffering from the broken system and I imagine it is quite difficult and frustrating.

        But it seems to me the minimum that must be done is having a 'facility' such as this shut down and the people there moved to an appropriate setting.

        What is the appropriate setting? Tell us how to create proper housing and services for the mentally ill.

        I am no expert in this, but cannot imagine not getting this place shut down now.

        •  There is no where (0+ / 0-)

          You walk into a city council meeting and talk about disability housing, and they won't even give you the floor.

          This issue represents people, who don't pay taxes and don't vote.  It isn't uncommon for their families to have disowned them.

          No decent property owner is going to bank government checks  in place of fair market rent.  I've been in projects that are far worse than these pictures.

          In Bridgeport, CT they teach kindergarten out of moldy trailers.  If we they can't get school rooms for kids, how much luck are you going to have convincing a city council member to invest in disabled housing?

          For the past several decades we have been privatizing government services.  The result has been extremely poor conditioned housing in low property value areas serving as SSI collecting bins.

          •  This is why there are trial attorneys (0+ / 0-)

            Mississippi Legal Services is a logical place to begin to inquire.

            There are just 10 kinds of people; those who know binary and those who don't.

            by RudiB on Sun May 16, 2010 at 09:27:18 PM PDT

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          •  sorry I did not respond earlier to this (0+ / 0-)

            I cannot disagree with what you say here. I do not understand how we can treat our fellow Americans this way (the kids in moldy classrooms or the mentally ill).

            I just do not see how the answer is to leave places like this open. We need to get these places on the news, in front of everyone who then will have to live with the choice of letting our citizens live in these conditions or change the system.

            Maybe the only way to change things is to constantly shocking us all with these situations, so no one can ignore the problem.

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