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  •  Kerry was a joke. (0+ / 0-)

    All the "shoulda, coulda, wouldas" in the world don't change the fact that you're making excuses for the fact that he couldn't beat a severely damaged George Bush in 2004.

    His close call in 2004 came because of, not in spite of, George Bush.  I can't imagine him trying to unseat a real president.

    You talk about Swift Boats, but it seems a very large part of the 2004 election was Kerry saying he was in Vietnam and George Bush wasn't.  We were in two freakin' wars at the time, and the guy wants to talk 40 year old history? And oh -- the whole vote for the Iraq invasion thing? Being duped, etc? Yeah, real confidence-inspiring.

    And it didn't help that his sugar-mama wife didn't think that librarians had real jobs.

    As to the debates, a funny thing happened along the way.
    He clearly won the first debate -- even with the little "you forgot Poland" bit, making Bush look his intellect.

    By the end, it became clear that he couldn't think on his feet, that he was repeating themes by rote. Bush may not have won the overall debates, but Kerry didn't exactly knock him out.  Pretty pitiful, that.

    Was a joke, is a joke.  Couldn't beat Bush. What more proof do you need?

    Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

    by dinotrac on Fri Jun 04, 2010 at 01:32:56 AM PDT

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    •  Most of your comments prove my point on the media (0+ / 0-)

      Kerry did not spend a "very large part of 2004 speaking of Vietnam". He mentioned it in most stump speeches only in saying that "he served his country as a young man in Vietnam and then returned to speak out against a war that he saw was wrong" (approximate words)  That was it.

      As to the Iraq vote, he did not say he was duped, he spoke of Bush not taking the steps that he promised the Senators he would take - and he did not go to war only as a last resort. (he had a long list including letting the inspectors do their job and exhausting diplomacy etc)

      The media did not cover much of Kerry's speeches or his positions. Kerry's spoke far longer on the environment and alternative energy in each speech. He spoke longer on health care in every speech. He spoke more about intelligently dealing with non state terrorists. Apparently, you weren't listening, although in fairness only on CSPAN could you have heard it.

      Teresa Heinz Kerry is John Kerry's wife and a wonderful person. You are disgusting referring to her as a "sugar - mama. But, this likely tells me that you never got over the 2004 primaries.

      As to Teresa's comment you completely distorted it - as did the media. It was a landmine question. Teresa was asked how she would be a different First Lady than Laura was. As Laura had wonderful press as a perfect First Lady, what could she say.

      After saying some very nice things about Laura and how she helped the President and the country, what Teresa said was that one difference was that she took a lot of her own identity from the work that she did with her foundation. She then said that this was the biggest difference as Laura had not worked as "an adult".

      Teresa  said, when the Republicans objected, that she had forgotten that Laura Bush worked as a teacher and a librarian - and those were of course jobs.

      However, Teresa's answer had she said "since she was young" would define a major difference. Laura last worked as a librarian in 1977 when she married Bush. She had not worked since she was in her twenties.

      The fact is the media minimized Teresa's work. She led on Green building and it is due to her leadership that Pittsburgh has the largest green conference center and is one of the greenest cities in the country. Her work here was well thought of enough that GHWB appointed her a nongovernmental delegate to the Rio conference. After that conference, she and others, including Kerry, founded Second Nature, which had a goal of getting sustainability included in college curriculum for various fields. http://www.greenandsave.com/...

      In addition, it was Teresa, who initiated the effort by the Pittsburgh foundations to revitalize the city in the 1990s when it was very depressed. http://www.google.com/...

      Teresa Heinz Kerry is an incredible woman and she was smeared more than her husband was in 2004.

      As to the debates, the fact is that Kerry won all three - as even the biased talking heads conceded. He was very good on his feet. It might be that some of the clever answers that you likely thought of at home watching the TV would have been less than clever after one became a major faux pas. He was not rotely answering with themes - he answered every question with succinct facts, positions and plans.

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