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  •  Yep (5+ / 0-)

    Drawing a stick figure and writing "Mohammed" is apparently hate.

    :-) <---- Mohammed</p>

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    by zegota on Thu May 20, 2010 at 11:40:40 AM PDT

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    •  Funny.... (0+ / 0-)

      It's not a picture of hate putting the crucifix in a jar of piss.  It's not hate depicting Mary (the mother) as a whore.  It's not hate, well the intelligent among you get the point.

      But drawing Mohammed is a picture of 'hate'.

      Not sure what is worse, the hypocritical double standard that it's ok to insult Christians rather than Muslims... or the patronizing lower standards of civilized behavior, apparently b/c muslims can't reach the lowest bar of maturity and tolerance.

      What do I know... I was assigned to foreign Muslim, Buddhist, Confusian countries and counselled Americans not to start dinners w/ Christian prayers out of deference to our hosts.

      "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand" -- Homer Simpson

      by USAFguy on Thu May 20, 2010 at 07:37:54 PM PDT

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      •  For Muslims... (0+ / 0-)

        ...it is hate to put a crucifix in a jar of piss; it is hate to depict Mariam umm Isa (pbuh) as a whore.  The real problem is not the "hypocritical double standard that it's ok to insult Christians rather than Muslims," but that most Christians don't speak up against the hate and insults made against their religion; they would rather meekly submit to the hate and insults because "free speech" is more important to them than their own religious beliefs.  Don't blame us Muslims because we take our religion seriously and make it a fundamental aspect of our lives.  Until Christians begin to take religion as seriously as Muslim do, Christians have only themselves to blame.

        Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

        by JDsg on Fri May 21, 2010 at 12:35:34 AM PDT

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        •  interesting rebuttal... (1+ / 0-)
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          neglecting to address the rabid fervor of muslims to issue a fatwa to kill the offenders to islam via drawing/ridiculing mohammed.  Nice way to avoid the higher standards of civil behavior of Christians who collectively resent those 'hate acts', but turn the other cheek while you endorse the barbaric, tribal, primative reactions of the muslim killers of those who offend muslims like you.

          Keep reaching for that lowest bar, you'll never reach it.

          "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand" -- Homer Simpson

          by USAFguy on Fri May 21, 2010 at 04:45:12 AM PDT

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          •  Oh... (0+ / 0-)

            ...we Muslims see fatawa coming out of the mouths of Christian preachers urging death upon others often enough (e.g., here and here); the only difference is that Christians call the fatawa by a different name.

            Yes, "higher standards of civil behavior of Christians."  Is that what you call it?  I'll have to remember that one for the future.  In the meantime, we're not interested in stooping to your level.

            Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

            by JDsg on Fri May 21, 2010 at 07:58:42 AM PDT

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        •  Haha (1+ / 0-)
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          " because "free speech" is more important to them than their own religious beliefs"

          Actually, free speech is more important to me than your religious beliefs. You're perfectly welcome to value religion over free speech, and not draw any depictions of a certain man. Requiring me to do so is silly. Respecting everyone's religion so as not to offend would be not only ridiculous, it would be impossible, as many of them contradict each other.

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          by zegota on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:35:31 AM PDT

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          •  You're missing the point. (0+ / 0-)

            Respecting everyone's religion so as not to offend would be not only ridiculous, it would be impossible, as many of them contradict each other.

            Just because religion A <> religion B because the beliefs may be contradictory to each other is, quite frankly, irrelevant.  To the followers of either religion, it would be like, "Who cares whether our religion is contradictory to another religion?  We're concerned about our religion."  Respecting everyone's religion so as not to offend may very well be impossible, but it's an admirable and worthy goal to strive for.  

            My original point was that many Christians have basically rolled over and played dead when other people have mocked or ridiculed their religion because they bought into the notion that "free speech" takes precedence over their own religious beliefs. Most Muslims don't buy into that notion, and we frequently call out people who mock or insult us.  That irritates a lot of non-Muslims, especially Westerners, but we don't care as we answer to a Higher Authority.  From our perspective, far better for the others to repent from the errors of their ways now than not to have the chance later on. Thoughts, speech and deeds have consequences, in both this world and the next.  I don't expect everyone to agree with me, theologically or philosophically, but the better world in the here and now is when people don't try to deliberately mock and insult other people's beliefs.

            Muslims and tigers and bears, oh my!

            by JDsg on Sat May 22, 2010 at 09:05:31 AM PDT

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