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  •  Unfortunately, (3+ / 0-)

    I am on dial-up in a rural community in Maine. It is difficult for me to multi-task on line. Perhaps you can find something.

    With all do respect, why do I feel that I am arguing with conservative Democrats here?

    If, as has been previously posted, five percent of the workforce is undocumented, and it doesn't significantly contribute to lowering wages, and it's nearly impossible to get public assistance if you're "illegal", is this even a topic of debate?

    BTW, many undocumented workers pay taxes.

    I congratulate Indiemcemopants on his Netroots Nation scholarship!

    by commonmass on Thu May 20, 2010 at 05:32:39 PM PDT

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    •  It's Not Impossible To Get Public Assistance (2+ / 0-)
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      commonmass, Othniel Kenaz

      and it's nearly impossible to get public assistance if you're "illegal"

      WIC, school lunch programs, school breakfast programs, subsidized day care, health care, pre-natal care, etc., there are a lot of programs which do not care about the immigration status of those applying.

      Beyond this, once the illegal immigrant has a U.S. born child, the parents, thru that child is eligible for a whole host of public assistance.

      why do I feel that I am arguing with conservative Democrats

      I would consider myself both a democrat (small d) and an economic nationalist, and I have no real problem saying so.

      <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

      by superscalar on Thu May 20, 2010 at 05:39:58 PM PDT

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      •  And I am an international socialist (2+ / 0-)
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        so now I get it.

        It's good to disagree. It's what makes us stronger.

        I hope that you realize that there's no hard feelings, personally, when it comes to debating policy. We can learn so much from eachother.

        This has been a good debate. I look forward to more.

        I congratulate Indiemcemopants on his Netroots Nation scholarship!

        by commonmass on Thu May 20, 2010 at 05:51:02 PM PDT

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