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  •  Dude, it sounds like someone didn't do their job. (10+ / 0-)

    That requirement was probably there all along. The architect should have caught it. The contractor should have caught it. The people in the local planning dept should have caught it when the plans were filed. If the elevator was budgeted and designed for from day one, it wouldn't have impacted the cost so much.

    I'm not saying that every building code makes sense in every case, and I sure don't know about your specific case...But I do know that they are important and they do much more good than harm.

    "They paved paradise, and put in a parking lot."
    "...Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?"
    - Joni Mitchell

    by davewill on Thu May 20, 2010 at 06:58:54 PM PDT

    •  Everything you said, I agree with (3+ / 0-)
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      and am aware of after a decade building, myself.

      At the same time, these are problems caused by crappy government - in this case the decision of the city council to adopt the IBC over the NFPA building codes.

      And I'm not railing against building codes.  Quite the contrary.

      I'm railing against spewing simple hate over complicated subjects, and the applauding of simple hate.

      But thank you for your thoughts.  You're the first ever to comment on my first published blog/diary, ever.

      OK. Now both of you shake hands & say you're sorry - we have a country to run here...

      by timmah on Thu May 20, 2010 at 07:11:02 PM PDT

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      •  Disagree. (10+ / 0-)
        1. You're assuming that the elevator requirement is there for nefarious reasons. You have no evidence of that.
        1. You're assuming that the vitriol directed against Rand Paul is unthinking hatred. I don't think it is. It's an honest appraisal of the implications of his very carefully thought out political philosophy. Add in a dash of politics in the form of ridicule of his attempts to unsay what he said.

        Not hate. I understand the libertarian position quite well. Anyone who is serious about politics has studied it. My considered opinion is that if implemented, it leads to robber barons and serfs and inequality and Rand Paul either doesn't know or doesn't care.

        "They paved paradise, and put in a parking lot."
        "...Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?"
        - Joni Mitchell

        by davewill on Thu May 20, 2010 at 07:18:01 PM PDT

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      •  I didn't see Jed as "spewing hate" (2+ / 0-)
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        He's reporting on facts. Rand Paul passes judgment on federal laws without knowing even what the laws say. This, when as a possible senator its his darn job to know what the law says! Paul's stance is that his ideology trumps reality. If a majority of lawmakers had Paul's hand-wave-y Humpty-Dumpty-ish "the law means what my ideology says it means" attitude, we'd never have any sensible regulations. Jed is perfectly correct to point this out. In fact I'd say we are all obligated to point out Paul's odious attitude.

        Waffles Are Delicious!

        by nosleep4u on Thu May 20, 2010 at 10:42:24 PM PDT

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