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  •  It's a non-partisan comic (3+ / 0-)
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    which is decidedly different from the idea you're describing. That is the fall back argument for somewhat rational Republicans who have no where to go. At least rational enough to realize that the Republican party is completely worthless but not willing to buy into the Democrat line.

    He could have said "Republican politician" but that seems unnecessary.

    The Great Depression: Now In Color!

    by TheChop on Mon Jun 07, 2010 at 10:19:18 PM PDT

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    •  I Thought it Was Pretty Obvious (4+ / 0-)

      ... that he meant "Republican Politician" given the spate of scandals on their side.

      He might, however, also had Eliot Spitzer and John Edwards in mind.  It is true that Republican scandals outnumber Democratic scandals by 10:1 or some such ridiculous factor but let's not pretend that all Democratic politicians are angels.

      •  let's also pretend that (0+ / 0-)

        edwards cheating on his wife is as grievous, say, as cheney conducting his private, "for his eyes only" energy panel re-regulating the environment to fit corporate standards, that eventually impacts coast environments, and thousands upon thousands of people's livelihoods.

        no... democractic scandals do not only underwhelm the number-for-number republicans scandals, they also underwhelm the overall, underlying moral premises of their scandals.

        no... his comic would not be "understandable in the right context" to numb-nut citizens who can not (if they even =would= not) tell the difference. so, i am playing hardball for his comic... it does not help enlighten the "average" reader (and for me, "average" means "someone who needs help," "needs leadership,", not "part of the choir who already understands and needs their underlying belief system reinforced").

        for me, "political cartooning" means "changing minds," and unfortunately, that one cartoon didn't cut it. sorry i hate to nitpick... but that cartoon, to achieve what it needs to be (if that is what it needs to be), needs to shoot higher than that.

        many americans cannot tell the difference between the court jesters and common village idiots.

        by theChild on Mon Jun 07, 2010 at 10:40:29 PM PDT

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        •  I Have Posted Dozens of Cartoons (2+ / 0-)
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          ... by Matt Bors over the past year-plus that I've written this diary.  In previous diaries, I've also posted a video interview with him a couple of times.  Apparently, you haven't been following Bors in my diaries.  

          Bors is a generally a very liberal altie cartoonist who has skewered many, many Republicans in the past.  Look at his web site and blog and determine for yourself.

          In that particular cartoon, when he mentions that the ------- politician has railed against people his entire life for behavior he didn't approve, it was clearly directed at several recent Republicans who condemned homosexual or extra-marital sex and were found later to have engaged in the same kind of behavior themselves.  There is no mention or implication that he is making any moral equivalency between the behavior of Republican and Democratic politicians.

          I believe you are reading too much into that one cartoon (out of 800+ cartoons I looked at for this diary and chose about 15% or so) and looking for some subliminal message that I do not believe exists.  

          •  nah, (0+ / 0-)

            just reading the cartoon like how my die-hard rightie auntie would read it. that's all. appreciate your vehemence though...

            just understand, all the passion and right-feeling impulses one might have, if communicated without sufficient clarity, might only be misread by those on the right and reinforce their own stupid preconceptions.

            as passionate as i am myself on issues, i am always ready and available to play devil's advocate, if just to try to prevent misreadings from the wrong side.

            yes, just that one cartoon out of the near-hundred usually per of these diaries, which i love (political cartooning is a bit of my own lifeblood). and it stood out to me in this manner, as one to "call out" a little bit for the sake that it might be misread by the other side. so i am pointing it out.

            never give stupid people an easy excuse to go on believing the way they do.

            we need to bomb companies like we bomb countries.

            by theChild on Mon Jun 07, 2010 at 11:20:55 PM PDT

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            •  The problem is with your aunt not the cartoon (2+ / 0-)
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              My family is the same way. It wouldn't matter if it said Republican because they only react to that by saying Democrats are just as bad. If you point out the deficit  under Bush. "Democrats aren't much better."  etc.

              He would have to have neon signs embedded in the newspaper to even begin to make it through their denial on it.

              The Great Depression: Now In Color!

              by TheChop on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 08:10:35 AM PDT

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