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  •  As Simmons was an adviser to W, I don't much (0+ / 0-)

    trust him or like him either.

    And, yes, oil's price was manipulated in 2008, and it's very possible that Simmons knew it was going to happen.

    When banks and the global economy cratered in Sept, 2008, Simmons prediction for 2010 became a bad bet, much beyond his control/analysis/inside info.

    I didn't mean to be a jerk.  It's clear that you merely misread the bet amount, but Simmons is just one of many people suggesting that an explosive solution, nuke or conventional, might be the only answer.

    Undoubtedly, it would require further and deeper geological analysis, and, no, I do not fully trust Russian test data.

    Not sure if I mentioned this above, but the US has substantial test data after completing over 1K nuclear tests.

    It sounds like you have more competency than I in geology/rock formation and so forth.  I do not know the answer, but I think we need to have ALL options on the table for evaluation.

    Simmons is really irrelevant to this whole thing, whether it works or not.  I don't believe that Simmons is recommending this bc he thinks it will fail and pour billions of gallons of oil into the Gulf.  Maybe so though, but I doubt it.  I can believe that Simmons is an oil pimp, but I'm not sure that he would want to suggest something that could end very badly and end in the nationalization of the entire industry.

    TomTech had a good write-up on the option weeks ago:  Nuke the thing! Final Update!

    I am neither a nuclear physicist nor a geologist, but I would like people who are explore this option more thoroughly.

    •  I don't mind it being explored. (1+ / 0-)
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      Jose Bidenio

      I just don't think that it is a viable solution for the current situation.

      The relief wells that are being drilled have a very high probability of success in light of recent advances in specialized directional drilling. They have reached accuracies that are capable of 1 ft per 1000 ft run.

      As far as I know (maybe other testing was done in secret), all the US tests were done in formations that did not have the geologic features that oil or water would be trapped in for fear of contamination of the water table or fracturing. They wanted solid rock with few anomalies.

      I don't think Simmons wants to destroy America. He just wants to make a lot of money for himself and his clients.

      I also don't like his Chicken Little, 'peak oil' scare tactics which have been overused in the last two decades. Most of that old data has fallen by the wayside.

      But, oil at $80 to $99 opens up new avenues for oil production. The tar sands in Canada for instance. Even the OPEC countries realize that it is not in their best long term interests to have oil much above $100 for the next few years. That would speed the development of the renewables.

      •  Yes, there is a fine line with the higher price (1+ / 0-)
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        Claudius Bombarnac

        oil good for renewables, but also good for shale and tar sands which are both the absolute worst sources of oil.

        I did hear that directional/diagonal drilling is far advanced from the days that Russians resorted to the nuke option, so that gives me hope that the problem will be solved.

        When is obviously my major worry.  I can't imagine this going for another month or 2, but that is a real possibility.  And a nuke/explosion option wouldn't happen next week either.

        And I don't buy Peak Oil either.  I imagine Simmons is def pushing that meme to increase oil's price.  Without a doubt, really.

        Meh, I'm going to bed.  Thanks for your replies.  They were insightful.

        One prayer before bed, and I've never prayed since I was 10 or 11.

        God, someone, anyone, Please make it stop.

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