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  •  Just to add: Cuomo (3+ / 0-)
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    listed marriage equality as one of the defining issues for him when he announced I believe.

    •  Yes. Good addition. (2+ / 0-)
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      Yes he did come out of the gate strong on that. Which was encouraging as he'd been low profile and I'd worried where he stood.

      And oddly, this cycle all the candidates seem to be competing to see who can be more gay marriage-ier than the next. From defeat, the LGBTs seem to have found the seeds of victory. I always supported the vote, pass or fail, and my instincts appear to be vindicated. We moved the ball down the field. They can't walk back the promises they've been making all over the state.

      And they recognize we mean business. We ran Harold Ford outta town.

      Trickle down Equality isn't working

      by Scott Wooledge on Thu Jun 03, 2010 at 09:49:36 PM PDT

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      •  There are other reasons for that (2+ / 0-)
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        In the next decade, the self identified LGBT communities (not even including those who don't identify) are expected to emerge as a major voting block in many states, and also in close national elections:

        "Specifically, this means that 5% of the electorate will self-identify as LGBT by 2016 at the latest, and that 6% of the electorate will self-identify as LGBT by 2028 at the latest. It is possible, though not a certainty, that this number will rise to 7% in the 2030's, even as early as 2032. Further, if the self-identified LGBT percentage of the population under the age of 45 increases rather than remains stagnant, then the 7% figure will definitely be reached in 2032, and even higher percentages might occur in the future."

        In a state like NY, where Democratic politicians (such as Schumer) depend heavily on down state votes in places like liberal NYC, they can read the hand writing on the wall.

        Its only short term politicians like the president or some of the old dinosaurs who don't yet get what's coming. Demographics is king, and Democrats will pay if they don't wake up to the demographic shifts that are favoring  LGBTs as a factor in electoral politics.

        That's not to say that increasing awareness of our issues hasn't helped. It probably has lead to greater self identification and a greater consideration that our issues are important to us. It probably also have moved the Overton from impossible to discomfort, but aware that we aren't going to go away so they must accommodate.

        •  Interesting (0+ / 0-)

          When you think about migration patterns of our community too, you have to think averages will clearly be high in CA & NY, particularly for district representatives.

          Trickle down Equality isn't working

          by Scott Wooledge on Thu Jun 03, 2010 at 10:18:33 PM PDT

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          •  Yes, NYC has the highest self identified (1+ / 0-)
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            at 6 percent. Again, this is just self identified since there is no other way to know. So, 10 years before the rest of the national average is to be 5 percent self identified and 20 before 6-7 precent self identify, we already 6 percent in NYC.

            Now, I should point- I believe these are conservative estimates because of the nature of the subject matter. It may be a lot more than that, and indeed, I think it will be.

          •  By the way, this is also not getting (1+ / 0-)
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            into the whole complicated issue of labels in the various communities we are discussing regarding self identification like "men loving men" who don't identify as gay, etc. but probably don't consider themselves straight men either.

            •  Hmmm... (1+ / 0-)
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              I had a NYC policeman chatting me up up the other day. I don't think he self identifies, paticularly when he's home in the barrio. But I'll identify for him.

              Trickle down Equality isn't working

              by Scott Wooledge on Thu Jun 03, 2010 at 10:31:27 PM PDT

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