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  •  Um, I provided a link (6+ / 0-)

    re: their data collection on the underwater plumes today.  Please do not keep repeating this falsehood.

    Link

    •  Thanks for that link. It is the confirmation (4+ / 0-)
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      many of us have been waiting for since seeing the Cousteau video on GMA.

    •  Yes, let's put this to rest: (7+ / 0-)

      "We know there is oil below the surface. The questions are where is it, in what concentrations, and where is it going. That is what NOAA scientists and our academic partners, deployed on ships throughout the Gulf, are determined to discover," Lubchenco said.

      June 4, 2010.

      Thanks, gc!

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      by StepLeftStepForward on Sat Jun 05, 2010 at 02:05:15 PM PDT

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    •  Was watching a press briefing held by a group of (6+ / 0-)

      folks working on this the other day. One of the scientist whose apparently been getting alot of air time was discussing that there are three different data banks into which info is being entered.

      If I remember correctly, and that is always up for grabs, part of the problem the scientists are having is getting all that info correlated so they know they have an accurate take on what they're examining.

      Hope that made sense somewhere.

      Stepping up to life eliminates the capacity for bullshit. - Robinswing

      by Onomastic on Sat Jun 05, 2010 at 02:12:41 PM PDT

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      •  That makes perfect sense. (4+ / 0-)
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        I was reading the document about the dispersant group and that was one of their recommendations as well - to have a central database for all the myriad data from myriad researchers.

        One thing about this damn spill is that I can see the possibility of a lot of jobs for a lot of people in the future, provided the government acts to fix our broken system(s). I'm really hoping we come out of this with a vastly improved and National Response Plan (not to mention a great green energy policy).

        There is no more important struggle for American democracy than ensuring a diverse, independent and free media. - Bill Moyers

        by StepLeftStepForward on Sat Jun 05, 2010 at 02:17:59 PM PDT

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        •  Couldn't agree more with - (3+ / 0-)
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          I'm really hoping we come out of this with a vastly improved and National Response Plan (not to mention a great green energy policy).

          We absolutely have to. I do not see how there is any option that makes any kind of logical, nevermind ethical, sense.

          Stepping up to life eliminates the capacity for bullshit. - Robinswing

          by Onomastic on Sat Jun 05, 2010 at 02:45:55 PM PDT

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          •  Yes, I expect this time will be different (1+ / 0-)
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            The Exxon Valdez was lots of sound without much lasting heat, in a faraway (and oil-bought) state with an entire population equal to metropolitan Nashville. In addition to the Gulf's massive commercial fishing industry, we have 4 states worth of politicians and newscasters, beachfront properties, resorts, casinos, recreational boaters and fishers, restaurants, hotels, recreational beaches, and state parks; and a combined population of ~46 million people.

            Yepper, I expect this will finally spark an improved NRP.

            ;)

    •  There's also a link (1+ / 0-)
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      in the breaking news section above with an article from Forbes saying that the USF doing work for the NOAA has confirmed underwater plumes.

    •  I will please keep repeating (0+ / 0-)

      my question as to why LSU and USF were at the forefront of this instead of NOAA; and why NOAA's website, as I found it on June 5th, mentions extensively, and exclusively, surface oil.

      I don't question the need to confirm data. I am a molecular biologist and have abundantly demonstrated to myself and my field's open literature my facility with and respect for the scientific method.

      I do wonder why the NOAA website -- which presumably embodies their mission, research, findings, and recommendations -- appears silent on the subject, when our coastlines sport thousands of oil rigs, maybe 5-8% of them exploration rigs, which arguably pose the highest risk of blowouts and underwater oil plumes.

      I consider this a serious lack of foresight, preparedness, and research focus; and I don't understand why this foresight, preparedness, and research focus are lacking when we're paying these folks perfectly good million$$$$ every year.

    •  Good digging, gc2. (0+ / 0-)

      I always have a problem when people NOT named Running Bear, Kills Elk or Woman of Many Horses complain about "illegal" immigration. -- Justice Putnam

      by Yasuragi on Sat Jun 05, 2010 at 03:52:33 PM PDT

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