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  •  no she did not say that ///she said it was (3+ / 0-)
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    DocGonzo, Pluto, DawnN


    MORE than 60,000.....

    when I pressed her on this she said the:

    upper range is 80 ish...

    that is very different than saying..

    "she said it was 60000"...

    •  meh i'm not buying it. (4+ / 0-)

      19,000 upper end of the USGS range is my guess.

      •  you really think that thing takes more than (0+ / 0-)

        four complete full seconds to fill up one barrel of oil..even after you adjust for gas..

        four seconds ..less than one barrel..



      •  my understanding is that 19,000 is ... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... a minimum estimate. BP's either lucked out or done a great job of managing this "12,000-19,000" estimate sound bite the mainstream media keeps using. It sounds like 19,000 was the maximum possible flow rate according to various non-BP estimates. What those numbers actually represent, though, is the range of minimum flow rate estimates — that is, when various estimated ranges were collected, the minimums of those estimates ranged between 12,000 and 19,000. BP never released enough information to make meaningful estimates of the maximum possible flow rate so only these minimum figures were released a being reliable.

        What I think is really more important is that no one (with the possible exception of BP) has any idea what the flow rate actually is (or was). I would expect that MMS, the Dept. of Interior, or Obama would insist on getting video and, better still, measurements from someone other than BP. It's our government's fault that we do not have solid data here.

        •  19,000 was the official top end. (2+ / 0-)
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          Secretary Chu and his team estimated 12,000 to 19,000 with a potential 20% increase after the riser bend was cut off.

          I'm no Nate Silver, TomTech, or VoteforAmerica ("WineRev" Eeman, Recounting Minnesota)

          by Tomtech on Sat Jun 05, 2010 at 03:54:12 PM PDT

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          •  no, that's the spin - not the truth (0+ / 0-)

            Here's what the official report said:

            Based upon the incomplete and often poor quality data available to the experts, only a range of values that represent an estimated minimum can be given. Using estimates from the video and auxiliary data given them by BP, the consensus of most of the experts is that the leakage at the time of the viewed video clips averaged at least 12, 000 to 25,000 bbl of oil per day plus considerable natural gas, and could possibly be significantly larger if the conservative assumptions used to make the estimate were relaxed.source (emphasis added)

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