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  •  I want to speak to your... (4+ / 0-)

    ...first myth.

    While you might argue that dispersants are important to protect fragile marshlands from "acres of goo", one question I would ask is have they been effective?  Are there still not "acres of goo" washing up into marshlands even though MASSIVE quantities of Corexit have been used.  

    So you have this toxic dispersant that hasn't solved the problem it was being used for.  What good is it?

    •  ask the 50 experts..... (3+ / 0-)
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      The good news is that the "best minds" are being brought together, folks who are doing experiments with this material are making recommendations.  It needs to be followed up on.  I know a million gallons sounds like a lot, but it isn't that much in an ocean.  That statement rightly was rejected by the BP CEO, but it had an element of truth.  The dispersent gets more easily diluted than the oil- the oil is held together by chemical forces.  I think some dispersing is better than drowning birds in thick heavy oil.  I really question the burning safety for people, but environmentally that seems to attract the least criticism.

      You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

      by murrayewv on Fri Jun 04, 2010 at 08:07:26 PM PDT

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      •  and yet... (4+ / 0-)

        ...birds are still drowining in thick heavy oil.

        My point is if it's not stopping the problem that people keep arguing its use is needed for, and adds to the toxicity of the spill, what is the benefit of using it?  And what is the added danger?  Will the dispersed oil go on to kill fish and undersea wildlife instead of birds?  And how is that preferable?

        •  I think the only preference.... (4+ / 0-)
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          for killing microorganisms rather than birds is the fragility of birds.  A happy microorganism evolves quickly and reproduces rapidly.  The fish are a real concern- certain fish like some kinds of tuna are only reproducing in the Gulf, and some may be really decimated.  But fish will have thousands of offspring as well.  Birds have one or two offspring.

          There are only bad choices and worse choices here.  We need more skimming and physial cleanup, but then we get so many people out there in the fumy air.

          Obama has OKed digging the berms around some rookeries and islands, but the BP folks are now saying, if you do that, it is your experiment, not ours.

          The biggest conclusion I am reaching is that the bureaucrats are genuinely trying and even the woman who stepped down from MMS was not the villianess fall guy.  We need a whole lot less niavity and frankly a lot of money to fix this problem.  I share your frustration with the bad results to date.

          You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

          by murrayewv on Fri Jun 04, 2010 at 08:30:09 PM PDT

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          •  DawnG.... (1+ / 0-)
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            Larsstephens

            We need to keep asking these questions.  That is the right open-minded response.  I am not trying to depate as much as seek answers and try for the best solution we can get to with data we can assemble.  

            You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

            by murrayewv on Fri Jun 04, 2010 at 08:44:03 PM PDT

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    •  The issue with the Corexit: (2+ / 0-)
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      DawnG, blueoasis

      It is toxic. It bioaccumulates. Like DDT. Not good. This is why it is banned in other countries.

      Those other countries have experts that have deemed this stuff too toxic. Our own EPA questions its safety.

      The problem is not that it is spreading the oil about, though it is a shady thing for BP to be doing. That is another subject entirely. The issue is its toxicity.

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