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  •  I'm a little confused... (1+ / 0-)
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    Even if the Texas Republican Party itself footed the bill for the Green Party petition drive, what could the Dems do about it?

    Would there be something illegal about that?

    Or are they just trying to get at the truth so they can make an issue out of it?

    •  I think it's the last... (2+ / 0-)
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      Trix, Rolfyboy6

      I can't see what's illegal about this either.

      But since Rick-Perry style Republicans and Greens agree on practically nothing, I think the obvious motive for Republicans enabling a Green candidate would be enough to turn off a lot of left-leaning voters who might otherwise consider voting Green.  So White loses rather fewer votes than otherwise, if the Democratic party can prove this.

    •  I Suspect It's The Latter.... (2+ / 0-)
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      Because it would immediately label whomever the Greens choose as a stooge of the GOP.

      "You share your young with the wolves of the nation...
      Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"
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      by Steve Singiser on Thu Jun 10, 2010 at 08:10:16 PM PDT

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      •  We've seen this a few times now (0+ / 0-)

        The Greens, desperate for any kind of recognition, becoming a stooge of Republicans.  So far it's worked against the Greens, "ruining their reputation."

        "It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

        by Rolfyboy6 on Thu Jun 10, 2010 at 11:05:00 PM PDT

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    •  Quote of the Year (2+ / 0-)
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      Rolfyboy6, KingofSpades

      "This is marvelous," Simmons said Thursday night. "Maybe if I took a long trip to China, I might move out front. I think there is a lot to say about not bothering the voters."

      I love when a candidate loses and is suddenly brutally honest.

      Republicans just try to block anything Democrats and science have to say.

      by Russells 10 on Thu Jun 10, 2010 at 09:58:10 PM PDT

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    •  The Problem Is Transparency (0+ / 0-)

      One of the major potential problems is that nobody actually knows where the $200,000 the Green Party used to set up their signature drive actually came from.  

      Allegedly the money came from a non-profit corporation in Missouri named Take Initiative America and the petition drive was organized and spearheaded by an Arizona Republican operative named Tim Mooney, but even the Green Party itself doesn't actually know where the money came from:

      "Green Party state coordinator Kat Swift said the group intends to report the Missouri corporation as the donor of the in-kind contribution.

      She said she didn't know who actually provided the funding, and Tim Mooney, the Arizona operative who arranged the effort, declined to say."

      As the extremely conservative leaning Dallas Morning News points out:

      "The bottom line on Texas campaign-finance law is that corporations, either for-profit or nonprofit, can't legally contribute to candidates or to parties, except to cover party administrative expenses."

      Mr. Buck Wood, an election lawyer from Austin, argues that the alleged actions of Take Initiative America and the Green Party may violate state campaign finance laws.  He points out that while individuals may bankroll party petition drives, corporations cannot.

      "That corporation [Take Initiative America]cannot make contributions to political parties in Texas. And to do so is a felony. . . It is also a felony for a political party to accept a corporate contribution."

      The Dallas Morning News is actively calling for an investigation to determine whether campaign finance laws were broken:

      "The legality of the money behind the Green petitions needs to be tested in court."

      I think that this situation certainly needs to be investigated, and any wrong-doing must be punished.  I don't really count on that happening in Republican dominated Texas during an election year, but hopefully someone will step up and actually figure out just what happened.  

      In some ways this situation sounds like what got Tom DeLay in hot water, as he was indicted for conspiracy charge relating to the laundering of $190,000 dollars of corporate money through the National Republican Committee into Texas state races.  Incidentally, the Hammer may soon finally be facing a trial for those charges.

      In the bigger picture, I personally see this situation as two separate but intertwined serious problems.  First, we really have to make ballot access easier for third parties, and second existing campaign laws have to be followed and enforced.

      "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace."- THOMAS PAINE

      by Crazycab214 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 12:27:39 AM PDT

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      •  If it takes as long as the Delay scandal (0+ / 0-)

        We'll find out who funded the Green petition drive in 2013, long after the election - with the Green Party on the ballot - is over.

        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

        by Phoenix Rising on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 08:35:22 AM PDT

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    •  Is that Rove-led group behind this? (0+ / 0-)

      I'm sure they're planning a lot of dirty tricks.

      "Philosophy is useless; theology is worse"--Dire Straits

      by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 04:44:06 AM PDT

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