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  •  Are you saying that in the past teaching loads (1+ / 0-)
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    were 3-3 and then they were reduced to 2-2? Because the institutional memories of everyone I know who has been at these schools for years differs from what you have laid out.

    Also, I don't think the vast majority of faculty have the sort of reductions you describe.

    If anything, teachers have double the responsibilities in terms of students.

    How can you have a doubling of students in real numbers while faculty have been cut in half without increased student teaching responsibility?

    The study I linked to directly addresses your question since many congressman were charging faculty with loafing, and the study dismissed that idea.

    I teach a 60 student class, and a 40 student class each semester, unless I'm given a workshop (of 25 students). So I have either 100 students, or 75 students, each semester. This is with a 2-2 load at a research 1/AAU public school.

    I really find it hard to believe we're doing less, but I am only basing that on the study and on the institutional memories of my older colleagues. I don't know for sure.

    There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

    by upstate NY on Thu Jun 10, 2010 at 07:45:39 PM PDT

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    •  And I teach at a Master's level institution (2+ / 0-)
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      that is highly selective in its admissions, and I teach a 3/3 load of 105 seats (starts out with that many students until a few weeks into the semester, by which time I usually have a 10% drop) plus an overload seminar of 4-6 each semester.  And I teach writing-intensive, research-intensive humanities classes.  I did used to have a 4/4 load, plus the seminar, which was up to 160 students a semester.  And I publish.  And serve on committees (both university and national in an educational organization (not AAC&U, but a smaller interdisciplinary one of a similar stripe)), and advise, etc., etc., etc.  I hate people telling me I don't work hard enough (not that this is being said now, but I am sensitive in this way).

      •  I had a meeting with a master's student about her (1+ / 0-)
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        thesis today. Yes, it's summer, but she wants to avoid paying for credits in the Fall, so we meet. The conversation today was about working in academia. I begin by talking about how great it is, and then try my hardest to dissuade her. This is not the place to go unless you love teaching and writing/research. The money is good, but people forget that, one, it's not great money, two, you don't begin working until you're in your 30s in most cases. The conversation centered on the fact that you set your own daily schedule, that you avoid hierarchical authority for the most part, and then came the kicker. Do you like people? Because your colleagues are in your business all the time. The flipside of having a pseudo-boss in the chair is having all your colleagues voting democratically on things that impact your work. This means there are a lot of relationships to negotiate. Personally, I like this aspect of academia, since it involves persuasion, and it largely avoids authoritative fiat. Plus, I'm not the most tactful person which is always a problem in big meetings, and my colleagues seem mostly forgiving about this.

        I work 65-70 hours during the school year, 3 hours a day max during the summer. And no I don't apologize for it. I can't write for more than 3 hours anyway.

        There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

        by upstate NY on Thu Jun 10, 2010 at 08:41:22 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think faculty are doing less, but . . . (0+ / 0-)

      . . . . but research requirements form a higher proportion of job requirements than they did, at the expense of students.  Publish-or-perish is resulting in each tuition dollar getting less instruction in real terms than it did.  There are other factors as well.

      •  It's hard to blame publishing on that (0+ / 0-)

        when you've reduced faculty to half or less of what they used to be.

        73% of all faculty are part-timers. More than 50% of undergraduate classes are taught by part-timers.

        If you're going to reduce full-time faculty, the students will definitely suffer.

        Grad student numbers have increased to take over for the full-time faculty, and this also means that full-time faculty have a lot more responsibilities guiding grad students. Full-time faculty also have more students period.

        There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

        by upstate NY on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 11:29:04 AM PDT

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